Letters to the Editor
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i don't think waxing would hurt if there was no hair to pull out, so maybe it is
just playacting.
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Hot Wax
Tell you what, Dick. Drop hot wax on your namesake and see how you like it.
OMG, what am I SAYING?
Try it someplace else sensitive, like your hand or the sole of your foot.
I have paraffin manicures. I stick my hands into wax. If it's too hot, I yowl bloody murder. Why do I do it? Because I'm a damn fool. But I'm an ADULT damn fool.
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the wax isn't hot enough to hurt from the heat, you are full of shit
it hurts becasuse you PULL THE HAIR OUT, and if you have ever had a waxing you have NEVER had one that didn't PULL OUT HAIR. Some people have highly sensitive skin, actually kids tend too, but lots of people don't. You emotions are overriding your ability to see and to rationally evaluate reality.
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you think an 8 year old is NOT going to scream like hell
if it hurts.
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The problem is when adults get involved
"Isn't it possible, this is all just a costly brand of playing dress up?"
Of course. I remember having play make-up and dressing up in my mom's 50s era party dresses. But, this form of play was child directed and when you were done the purple taffeta went back into the closet. The more extreme stuff here involves semi-permanent changes to a girl's body.
It is also different in yet another way. It alters the time honored mother-daugher "I want to look older" : "No you aren't old enough to wear that" dynamic. When mom encourages the appearance of sexual maturity, early onset of sexual activity/pregancy/STDs are probably not far behind.
Brightstar, you suggested that this was driven by women who were somehow overwhelmed by feminist demands. I say "nuts' to this. I would bet a huge amount of money that the women taking their daughters in for a sex-wax are of the "trophy wife" variety and not career women who have a sense of identity that extends beyond the roots of their expensively bleached hair (who the hell has time for this shit?). If anything, this is an expression of very traditional time-honored sex roles.
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when men shave their beards are they trying to look childlike
well?
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dick
1. Even though there's no adult-looking coarse hair, the human body is still covered with "peach fuzz". Which would still hurt when it gets pulled out by the roots.
2. Hot wax can be just fine on some parts of the body and too hot on others, even though the wax hasn't changed temperature. All I'll say on that is, I speak from experience.
3. A bandaid hurts when it's pulled off, "even if" there's no significant "adult" hair under the bandaid. Spa wax is a lot like a super-sticky bandaid.
4. Even if this were a pain-free experience, I do not think it is appropriate for anyone to be looking so intently at a pre-teen's vulva and pubis. And it's not appropriate to be teaching young girls to obsess about the appearance of their genitals. It sends wrong messages on all kinds of levels.
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That is my point
Brightstar, you suggested that this was driven by women who were somehow overwhelmed by feminist demands. I say "nuts' to this. I would bet a huge amount of money that the women taking their daughters in for a sex-wax are of the "trophy wife" variety and not career women who have a sense of identity that extends beyond the roots of their expensively bleached hair (who the hell has time for this shit?). If anything, this is an expression of very traditional time-honored sex roles.
These women are reverting out of fear.
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This is a perfect thread to refer to when pointing out the macroagendas of certain posters
Reading it, in real time, this is what I see (paraphrase):
"What?! That's outrageous!"
"This is child abuse."
"These mothers are frickin crazy."
etc. And then...
"OH MY GOD YOU WOMEN SUCK YOU BLAME EVERYTHING ON THE PATRIARCHY AND WHEN MOTHERS ABUSE THEIR CHILDREN YOU GIVE THEM A PARADE."
I don't engage with the thematic all-cappers, but this is certainly interesting on an intellectual level.
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I have a productive comment from first-hand experience
But I don't feel safe posting it without the anonymous option.
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It's a good first step to destroying a child's self-image.
Aside from the question of whether girls that age even have any hair down there worth waxing off, this disgusts me because it is telling the little girl that there is something wrong with her which needs to be changed. Moreover, it needs to be changed in a way which is scary and painful.
This is a monstrous lesson to teach a child, particularly a little girl who is going to grow up surrounded my images of unattainable female perfection. Will the road from the bikini wax end in anorexia or bulimia? How about obesity resulting from despair at ever looking like a barbie doll? Or will this be the beginning of an unending series of body modifications involving expensive spa procedures or surgeries?
How about boob jobs for 8 year-olds? Why the hell not? Give her a little A or B cup; she can always augment them later on.
We need to let children be children instead of sexualizing for the misguided needs of insecure adults and a pedophilac culture.
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Once again I'm clueless
I have the same reaction to this that I have to kiddie manicure parties and the like--I have an extremely hard time believing that they actually happen.
I mean, I have a boy so I'm kind of out of the loop. But I have friends with little girls, and I don't hear about any of them doing stuff like this. I never see salons advertising for it. Other than on Broadsheet, I never hear anything about it. I certainly don't know anyone who would consider this normal behavior.
Is it because I live in the Midwest? Is it because I don't hang around with girly-girl trophy wife types? Not to sound like a rube (although I'm admittedly a bit of one), but this sounds like one of those crazy, newfangled, big-city things to me.
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Response to Treeple
I'll say it is.
I have posted three times now with a really specific, factual question about responsibility. If I took my eight year-old daughter somewhere to get a waxing, I would be in handcuffs, immediately. I am asking a really, really simple, straightforward question -- shouldn't a woman be subject to the same punishement?
Apparently the answer is "no."
And that takes care of that.
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If you start that young
The hair probably never grows in, which means a bikini wax is NEVER painful.
I mean, come on people, society expects most women to do this. Starting young would make the process less painful.
If any of you outraged people expect your grown women to be shaved or waxed, then shut up.