Letters to the Editor
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Getting knocked up
The term "getting knocked up" implies being a victim of something ... which seems to be the slant that pro-choicers tend to prefer when referring to the poor pitiful woman who "get knocked up" against her wishes and must now destroy the invading enemy called Embryo because she just can't help it. Both sides have their preferred Madison Avenue techniques in describing abortion.
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Deal With It
Life is tough. Life scars you. Life can lead to mental illness. Abortion is never better than the lesser of several evils, but sometime one has to choose between bad options, between destroying one thing and destroying another.
Sexuality is and always has been a high-risk activity, and we are deluding ourselves if we think we can make it both physically and emotionally "safe" with contraception and abortion or lack thereof. We have to get back to being tough about options and consequences.
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Absolutely
But only in middle-aged white men.
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"I killed my baby"
This thought resounds in the mind of the woman who has had an abortion, whether someone told it to her or not, whether she was exposed to a prolife demonstrator or not, and no matter how much she tries to deny it afterwards, either to others or to herself, in an attempt to make the pain go away.
And to those women who say "I, a woman, did not have that thought" -- I say -- you're lying.
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ha ha, Christopher Michael Neill
Now say that to the thousands of women who regret their abortions and are tortured by them, the women who were lied to and told that an abortion would solve all their problems, like my friend who attempted suicide years after her abortion because she kept having dreams about a baby crying out for help but she was unable to save him.
It took a lot of counseling, a loving husband, and a final acceptance that God had forgiven her to get over it. She's neither white, male, nor middle-aged.
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Before we go blaming abortion
What about the genetic aspects of mental illness?
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Let's assume that abortions could lead to mental illness.
If that's the case, with all other factors being controlled, then an enlightened, caring society would offer the most supportive conditions before, during, and after an abortion for any woman who desires one.
Of course, we don't live in an enlightened, caring society. For too many abortion opponents (though not all), life begins at conception and ends at birth. In the fact of their hostility, abortion services must be defend, regardless of what this and other studies might suggest or prove.
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Not Surprising That Infanticide Is Bad For Your Mental Health
See above.
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So, don't have one
The men here who have officiously favored us with their opinions are hereby forbidden to have abortions.
You're not at risk. STFU.
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correction
I think the term is DNC, not D&C, as in "did not carry."
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Hey, Greeneyedkzin
Don't like slavery? Don't own a slave.
The moral rightness or wrongness of something is independent of anyone's opinion about it or whether or not one is personally affected.
Killing defenseless babies in the womb is wrong with the sole exception of saving the mother's life--period.
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@Greeneyedkzin
I admire your spirit, but you might try doing something more useful, such as banging your head against a wall.
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@DurianJoe
Thank you. See windmills. Tilt at windmills. Get knocked on my ass. Get up and go back to tilting at windmills.
Sometimes, I get the windmills but good.
I'm even better at using a lance on windBAGS that come blowing over here ("hey, trolls, there's an ABORTION debate!") to rant.
They should save it for their female dependents, if they have any. There are some men who should not be allowed to have female financial dependents. It gives them a sense of being worth listening to.
I say we've got some of them here, and I think they ought to go home.
DurianJoe, remember how Adlai Stevenson shocked hell out of radioland by saying at the UN that he was prepared to wait until hell froze over? I always admired him.
and I have enough going on in my life that I don't have to pull power games in the name of someone else's morality to get my jollies.
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Abortions seem to lead to mental illness in pro-lifers, definitely
I volunteer at an abortion clinic, shielding the patients from the pro-lifers. Most of the ones we get do not appear to be altogether sane. One of them spent a good 5 minutes impassionately preaching to an empty parked car (belonging to the undercover cops, though I guess he didn't know that). Another one does not appear to react appropriately when said cops talk to him - he seems to be in a bit of a daze, possibly on some kind of chemical, though I'm not sure which one. Yet another one is dressed in rags, occasionally with his buttocks exposed. That is not a sight I wanted to see that fine morning. I could go on.
It is true that not all of them look that crazy. Some are teenage kids who are just trying to get credit for their "good works" - they bus them in once a month. The priest, or pastor, who leads their religious services doesn't look clinically insane. But the percentage of insane people definitely seems to be higher among the pro-life demonstrators than among the patients coming into the clinic.
My view on the matter? Get the f*** out of my mental health. If I want a procedure - be it abortion, dental work, or an appendectomy - it's my own business how it affects my own mental health. And to all the pro-lifers here - until you've adopted all the abused/neglected/abandoned children that the laws of your state let you adopt, do us all a favor and quit it with the rhetoric. Put your money (and your time and your so-called love) where your mouth is, and then we'll talk.
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the fog of commentary is free
but the article is $42.63
http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpl/jcpp/2006/00000047/00000001/art00003
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I can understand there might be some sorrow
I had several early miscarriages, and I still feel the sorrow from them sometimes, though it's been nearly ten years. Sometimes you have to make hard choices and wonder what the alternatives could have been, whichever way you choose. It's particularly tempting to believe that the choice you didn't make would have made your life better.
I am very sorry for the woman who believed God could not forgive her, that religion needs to change it's messages to be more accepting of such personal choices instead of creating mental problems for people.
