Letters to the Editor
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It's all how you phrase it
But, you know, from a purely rhetorical standpoint, "pro-life" has always beaten "pro-choice" like rock beats scissors.
If you feel that way, why keep using the term "pro-life"? Why not refer to those people with a term that accurately describes their agenda?
Instead of "pro-life", call them what they are: pro-forced-pregnancy.
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This reminds me of my state senator...
...who, during a re-election campaign, claimed to be a Certified Public Accoutant. His opponent checked and found out he wasn't. The incumbent then went to court and tried to have "CPA" legally added to his name. The judge said no, but he was re-elected anyway.
Side note: This was the stiff beaten in the Republican primary by the stiff who went on to lose Dennis Hastert's Congressional seat.
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Elect me! I'm retarded.
You're retarded too, so check that box "Pro-Life"
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:P
I think he should have changed his name to "Anti-Choice" because that's what I call those people.
My stance-name is:
Mind-You-Own-Damn-Business-PLSKTHX
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@essmeier
Agreed, but "pro-forced-pregnancy" is a bit cumbersome, no? I've always liked the versions I heard from a pro-choice atheist activist in the early 1990s, your choice of either:
A) The Compulsory Pregnancy Movement (CPM); or
B) The Mandatory Motherhood Movement (MMM), aka the Triple Ms
Personally, I prefer the latter option, if for no other reason than the great alliteration it provides.
Now, on to more important things...I'm off to the courthouse to file paperwork to change my legal name to "White-Hot Sexual Fantasy". Thanks for the idea, Broadsheet!
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ugh, there are more?
why is it always old white guys who are so vociferously pro-life?
i highly recommend the documentary "lake of fire" to anyone who still thinks nutters like these use any semblance of logic, compassion or critical thinking in developing their extreme, terroristic viewpoints.
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Hmmm...
My stance names:
Body Integrity
Free Will
Powerful Woman
[Oooops, that last one might get me arrested! ;-)]
Based solely on initials (BI vs. FW) I think I'm going with Body Integrity.
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Forced
"Instead of "pro-life", call them what they are: pro-forced-pregnancy."
Right... because that's what they do... force people to get pregnant...
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By Who-what-now?
Is Salon using handles for contributors? Why?
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in response to phunkjnky
While no one would be silly enough to argue that pro-lifers would ever force people to get pregnant (as you imply, that's of course ludicrous), I think the argument can be made that pro-lifers are in fact trying to force women to STAY pregnant.
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My name is
Drink the blood from the severed heads of my enemies.
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Re: It's all how you phrase it
essmeier,
"If you feel that way, why keep using the term "pro-life"? Why not refer to those people with a term that accurately describes their agenda? Instead of "pro-life", call them what they are: pro-forced-pregnancy."
OR essmeier, we could call pro-abortion people, "pro-death" people instead. After all, as you so eloquently said, it's all how you phrase it.
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re: in response to phunkjnky
emma42,
"While no one would be silly enough to argue that pro-lifers would ever force people to get pregnant (as you imply, that's of course ludicrous), I think the argument can be made that pro-lifers are in fact trying to force women to STAY pregnant."
Sorry emma, but I take the attitude that pro-lifers are telling women to take responsibility for their actions. If you want to play, you'd better be able to pay.
Of course I am a bit biased being Catholic.
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@Emma42
This is a good day. I have resisted the internal urge (my inner collegiate debater) to argue the point for sake of the verbal sparring. I am in an interesting quandary. I am pro-life personally, however, I do not push that view on anyone else. I have even been involved in morning after pill instance. I did not force my ex to do anything she wasn't up for, nor did I break up with her over it. However, it does anger me to see people disregard my beliefs as... well something primitive.
I do not want legal abortion to go away. I just don't necessarily approve of it. That's my burden, not yours. I guess I have trouble with saying that on day x, it is an embryo... On day x+1 it is a person...
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cheifpayne
So, should a woman be forced to take responsibility for her being raped and impregnated from that rape?
As a side note, that argument always ends up seeming like a baby is a necessary punishment for the "irresponsible" action of having sex. It doesn't seem to be a very healthy way of looking at things, if a fetus is carried to term it should be because its wanted, not because its a bizarre archaic form of punishment.
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re: cheifpayne
Saltine,
"So, should a woman be forced to take responsibility for her being raped and impregnated from that rape?"
Well, let's flip that question - Is it the baby's fault that the women was raped and impregnated from that rape?
"As a side note, that argument always ends up seeming like a baby is a necessary punishment for the "irresponsible" action of having sex. It doesn't seem to be a very healthy way of looking at things, if a fetus is carried to term it should be because its wanted, not because its a bizarre archaic form of punishment."
If a baby is carried to full term and is not wanted, there is always the option of putting it up for adoption. Yet that option is rarely mentioned. I actually wonder why that is.
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@chiefpayne
Sorry emma, but I take the attitude that pro-lifers are telling women to take responsibility for their actions. If you want to play, you'd better be able to pay.
Of course I am a bit biased being Catholic.
Ah yes, the Catholic Church, that paragon of responsibility-taking for terrible actions! Why, watching the news one is struck by the numerous and highly sincere instances of Catholicism taking responsibility and apologizing for its many crimes over the centuries, and doing what it can to make amends and set the historical record straight! In fact, the spectacle of the Catholic hierarchy falling all over themselves to take responsibility for the Church's collaboration with Nazism and fascism in 1930s-1940s Europe, as well as its vast and largely successful efforts to coddle and protect thousands of kiddie rapist priests over the past century, sets a shining example of ethical and moral conduct for all of us to follow!