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Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:00 AM

Quote of the day: Obama on Clinton

When Hillary attacks!

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Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:13 PM

Angela Merkel is the Chancellor of Germany, the most powerful country in the European Union

Nobody would dream of calling her weak and emotional, and any sly suggestion that this is the case would be quickly rebuffed. Why is it that America seems so backward and ol-fashined in its attitude to women politicians, even blaming the woman for a husband's concupiscence? You have a Democratic nomination process which looks not unlike a mass rally of the Charismatic Movement jazzes up with women like Arianna Huffington (nee Stephanopolous, formerly of London before marrying a wealthy Republican) and Maureen Dowd of NYT positively panting for Obama. I have a French perfume called "Femme" by Rochas but you have "feminists of my generation", "feminists of the old-guard", "black feminists", "white feminists" and a melange that looks more like a dog's dinner than anything else. Of course, I have to be careful with every word I say because everything is scrutinised for signs of racism, sexism, and any other -ism that comes to mind. I did not realize that Americans are such angry people, so ill-at-ease with each other until I came upon this site. I understand why the writer called Piece-of-Cake has decided to leave and I would too but I won't let any ignorant bully order me to do so - as happened earlier today. I found the debate on education very interesting (Friday) with well-argued positions and a minimum of four-letter words but the dross that presents itself as argument in the Obama/Clinton imbroglio is appalling.

Kosovo declared its independence from Serbia today, something that has not gone down well with the Serbs and their fellow-Slavs, the Russians. Russia has accused the US of interfering in European affairs and, in case you haven't noticed, Russia is sounding increasingly belligerent. I'm wondering how either of the candidates, Obama or Clinton, would connect with a newly-resurgent Russia. I'm aware of Putin's quip about Hillary Clinton but that was a riposte to an earlier statement of hers. November is a long way off and the world is volatile.

I don't know enough about Kosovo but I intend to inform myself. Perhaps Americans should also do so, especially as your President seems to believe that the US has the right to poke its nose in wherever it pleases. The Democratic Party is being torn asunder, through threats and slander. That, at least. is clear. Come November, I will not be surprised if the Republicans win again, even if a year ago everybody I know said "No way". Your media demonises people, exalts others, and seems to be answeable to nobody as it trivialises everything and allows personal vindictiveness colour its views.

Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:11 PM

Obama

Re: "The Hillary Hub section that accuses Obama of "attacking her and distorting her record" doesn't come across as believable to this reader."

Then do some research. Last night in a speech in Wisconsin shown on C-Span, Obama said that he was the only one who could provide universal healthcare. HUH? Now he's stealing that from Hillary just like he stole her economic plan and her plan for Green Collar jobs.

He doesn't have any of his own ideas and he knows he doesn't need any. He has correctly noted that entertainment culture has seeped into every aspect of American life. Obama is now like Oprah or Tiger Woods. Someone from TV people like.

He also knows that after seven years of a President who couldn't put two words together that Americans are hungry for words. That's where Hillary is weak. She cannot articulate a vision for the country. I believe she has one, but she sounds too wonky when she discusses it. Unlike Bill, she doesn't have the rhetorical skill necessary to combine policy with inspiration.

Even Obama's slogan "Yes We Can" isn't his own. It comes from United Farm Workers co-founder Dolores Huerta who coined it back in the early 1970s. The UFW owns the copyright.

Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:08 PM

Obama's time has come !

I completely agree with Senator Obama. At this point, the Clintons and all of their aides, staff etc. and any others who need their jobs, will do anything, even if it means destroying their own party to win the nomination. If the big wigs in the Democratic party decide in Clinton's favor, they deserve to lose in November, although I dread the thought of a McCain presidency. For millions of Americans all across the political spectrum, Barack Obama is a breath of fresh air whose time has come, while the Clinton's are past of a stale historical narrative which has run its course. I am female, 65, white and I decided long ago that I would not support any candidate who voted for the fiasco that is Iraq nor can I, for the life of me, believe HRC when she said she was deceived by the Bush administration and felt she must vote to invade Iraq. She is far too savvy and wily a politican to buy into such an obvious lie, but apparently it was politically expedient for her to support the war. Because of her vote and the votes of all those in congress who went along with the Bush bullies, thousands of Americans have died and thousands more have been maimed both mentally and physically not to mention the countless deaths of innocent Iraqis and the destruction of their country. The economy and our reputation on the international scene is in shambles, the war grinds on, our healthcare system is broken,etc. etc. So I say,it's definitely time for a change and I, for one, am more than willing to give Barack Obama a chance.

Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:03 PM

@ @Malthust

That "adult" was a 22 year old intern, an employee. The affair was part of pattern of behavior. In the midst of being sued in a sexual harassment case, and being the target of the special prosecutor, he began a relationship with Monica.

What I find interesting, is that Clinton supporters seem to discount the fact that the right wing, won't go there, if Hillary is the nominee.

Sunday, February 17, 2008 12:01 PM

@tina schrier

So, according to you, every man who has a lot of sex with different women, is sexist and misogynist?

Or is it just Bill Clinton?

And all of those women who stay in a marriage where a man has had an affair or several of them, are to blame and additionally, no matter what reconciliation or work on the marriage the couple may have done, are stupid shits for staying in the marriage?

Or does this just pertain to Hillary Clinton?

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