Wait, your best argument is a comparison of dvd's at blockbuster to truly affordable healthcare for every man, woman and child?

Your best argument is a comparison of dvd's at blockbuster to an end of the monopoly of health insurance companies to rob the American people who pay with their lives and their retirements for healthcare that has nothing to do with health or care?

Your best argument is a comparison of dvd's at blockbuster as an example of the best of free will and free market?

How about we let you not pay for police protection through taxes and then when you are robbed and beat up you pay for each salary of each policeman for each day that they investigate your case, plus the court costs and salaries for the judge and courtroom personnel. Sounds like a deal to me. Now that's free market.

You must be joking?

Sorry, but though I read your careful explanation thoroughly, I was unable to detect any argument other than "She seduced him."

Then you are not actually reading what I am saying. No, I am not saying that she seduced him. By all published accounts, it was mutual. Was he a crude user? Yes. So? That is just not the same thing as sexual harassment. It would only be sexual harassment if she said she was unwilling or complained about his approach and he persisted.

Look at Clarence Thomas? Do you think he was a sexual harasser? From Anita Hill's perspective he was. She indicated her distaste to him. She indicated that she did not approve of his jokes and approach. Then we confirmed him as a justice to the Supreme Court of the United States.

I think this was a dreadful mistake. He should have been held to a higher standard. When the Monica thing came out, Bill Clinton was never charged with sexual harassment because Monica did not believe she was harassed. I knew someone very high up in with the Starr Committee. Believe me, if they could have gotten Bill on sexual harassment or anything claimed by those women, they would have. What was their issue instead? Perjury.

Would I now vote for Bill Clinton to be President knowing what I now know of him? No way! He is not fit to hold that office.

None of that changes the fact that Hillary Clinton is fit to hold that office. She is fit and qualified and experienced.

Your complaint seems to be that she called these women bimbos. As a humiliated wife, what the hell was she supposed to call them? Of course, she thought they were bimbos. Women never like the women with whom their husbands cheat. She's human. That does not make her unfit to be president. Bill did that stuff. She did not.

As to the assumption that he would be all over the interns, I don't buy it. Unless he is getting senile, he won't be. The cost to his personal legacy would be too high. I think he has changed. Is he perfect? Nah! Do I like him. No! I don't have to like him. I am not voting for him. I am voting for her.

And again, I say the relationship was inherently coercive. Obviously Monica complied. She may have willingly complied. She may have believed herself to be in love. Does this erase the power imbalance?

Of course there was a power imbalance. She didn't complain I think the difference we have is that you are arguing about moral and I am arguing about legal. No complaint = no harrassment.

It's like you're arguing that a male prison guard can have a consensual relationship with a female inmate.

Oh please! She could have left at anytime. She was an upper class girl. I wish I could have given my daughter the advantages that Monica had. To equate her with a prisoner who is coerced by a guard is truly strange. Do you not understand that real prisoners are coerced by real guards and that they are real victims? They cannot walk away from their circumstances. You seem to be complaining that girls in their twenties are vulnerable to seduction and that they admire men of power. Develop a vaccine then. This has ever been and it will ever be.

I was surprised a so-called "feminist" wasn't more supportive of the idea that a relationship's balance of power should be equal, until I remembered that Hillary supporters are willing to twist their own perceptions to support whatever argument is required to get her to the White House. Girl Power!

Nooo. You just don't get it. How many times do I have to say: I am not voting for Bill. I don't believe it will even be a co-presidency. I am voting for her. You are the one who is blaming Hillary for her husband's behavior.

You scoff at the idea that Bill might prey on another woman if he had access to White House interns again -- but have you read anything about his pattern of abusive behavior? Seriously, have you read Kathleen Willey's story, or Paula Jones's story, for example?

My reading time is limited and I never read scandalous, gossipy stuff. Are they contending that Hillary raped them?

Just because these women were adopted by the right-wing wingnuts doesn't mean they were lying. Or does it?

No, but it sure doesn't recommend them to my reading list.

Hillary is running on her record as a Senator, an activist, an attorney, and her time as a first lady. That is not the same thing as running on Bill's record. She has differentiated her views from his on his on more than one occasion. Some things he did she now says require revisiting. Of course, he is going to campaign for her. He's her husband. You cannot deny him this unless you also say that Mrs. Obama and Mrs. McCain should stay off the campaign trail.

Plans are cheap. Hell, I'd write a plan for an ideal America in which every family made at least $40,000 a year, raspberry Snapple flowed out of the kitchen faucet, and Johnny Depp gave me oral sex twice a week.

Hillary's plan has zero chance of passing. Is "health care for everybody!" a great applause line? Yes. Is it a great ideal that we can all try to work towards? Yes.

Is mandated health insurance even remotely likely to be adopted by Congress if Hillary becomes President, especially given that the Republicans in Congress will move heaven and earth to oppose anything that Hillary Clinton wants? No.

Sorry, but her "free pony for everyone!" idea might just as well be doodles on a Trapper Keeper. And you know what else? She knows that's true too. Do you think she's deaf to political reality? She's playing you for a fool. Promising something she knows she can't deliver.

Also, she's laughing all the way to the bank while she does it.

"Sen. Hillary Clinton and Republican Sen. John McCain together received over 40% of healthcare industry contributions among the 18 major party declared candidates.... Clinton leads among donations from health professionals and lobbyists."

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=109&STORY=/www/story/06-22-2007/0004613490&EDATE

Wake up.