"Not if I had been flirting with him like crazy."

So... Lewinsky, a girl in her early 20s, the temptress of a married man in his 50s? Overwhelming the WILL of her employer, the most powerful man in the WORLD? When he whipped it out, she... oh... DESERVED it? He... couldn't control himself?

Nice. Underneath every Hillary supporter is a dinosaur doomed to repeat the same old gender lies.

If you believe that Bill can be so easily led with his trousers, then why on earth do you want him back in the White House with access to a whole new group of interns? Fox in the henhouse, I think. But I'm sure you would think that he had no choice.

Did you SEE what she was wearing? That tramp deserved it, right?

I hope even if he is going to be the eventual nominee that the process doesn't end soon. We need as much time as possible BEFORE he is confirmed as the nominee for the right wing/mainstream media/republican establishment to tip their hand about what they have planned for obama.

You should worry more about the superdelegates than about Hillary's moods. Bully Clinton is one of the superdelegates and thus can vote for Hillary and get himself another 8 years as Proxy Prez.

Read today's very interesting article in the L.A. Times (latimes.com) entitled "Who are the superdelegates". So much for democracy and "Your Vote Counts!". Uh-huh.

Oh, dear oh dear, you've caught me there. Yes, Clinton's healthcare mandate.

Yeah, God forbid citizens should pay their fair share to help keep costs down and make healthcare affordable for those who can't afford it and need it the most and help make it available for ALL AMERICANS. That would be a terrible and horrible thing. Not selfish at all.

Nothing like appealing to people's greed to make a point, eh?

Re: healthcare, well, if that's the argument, then that's fine with me... I look forward to having my wages garnished for the good of all Americans... Hillary must know what's best for me and for you and for the little children she professes to love, at least when the cameras are rolling. When she is able to prove that every child deserves a pony, I expect I'll be paying for that as well. Because no child must be left behind (you are aware that she voted for NCLB, aren't you?)

What on earth is wrong with Obama's plan, which would give healthcare to everyone who needed it, but would not garnish wages to pay for it? Don't take my word for it, Ted Kennedy said that Obama's plan would do that. This is still America and as an uninsured American myself, I certainly don't want to be forced to pay into some system, and guess what, neither does anyone else, which is why her plan failed the first time she tried it. Why don't you read how well mandates are working in Massachusetts? On second thought, don't. No need to let facts interfere with political posturing.

I am not suggesting that you are ambivalent about racism. I don't know you. I am suggesting that "feminists" of any race who support Hillary and decry sexism should also be vigorously defending the rights of black women. Any "feminist" who remains silent as Hillary's campaign tries to invalidate the vote of a black woman because it comes from a state that Obama won, or from a state with a large black population is a hypocrite.

Actually, that's not why her healthcare plan failed. It failed because of health insurance and republican lobbyists and propaganda that pandered to people's greed and YOU SHOULD KNOW that. But that would be TOO FAIR to Clinton, wouldn't it?

And the insurance situation in Mass. isn't the same one in Clinton's plan. It's quite different. No insurance company was required to reduce it's costs to the consumer. But of course, that can't or won't be said either, will it?

And if you don't get how if we all share the cost, that it will bring individual cost down, then you're willfully ignorant of how insurance works in the first place.

Greed, my dear anonymous, greed. Obama knows how greed works and it works well for him...just like the Republicans.

Actually, no one knows why Hillary's health plan failed. Because she kept the negotiations and documents secret. In fact, they're still sealed today. Barack Obama said in a debate that he would broadcast his health care negotiations live on C-Span. Sunshine, my dear Xanadu, is the best disinfectant.

Hillary made no similar promise, and judging from her campaign, which prizes secrecy and loyalty above all (hmmm... values quite resembling a certain brush-clearing Texan I could name), her second crack at health care, if she were to get one (she won't), would be just as secretive, just as corrupt, just as sealed, and just as doomed as her first crack at it. Face it, she's paranoid.

Paranoid? Hmm. Maybe she's more like Nixon than like W.

So... Lewinsky, a girl in her early 20s, the temptress of a married man in his 50s? Overwhelming the WILL of her employer, the most powerful man in the WORLD? When he whipped it out, she... oh... DESERVED it? He... couldn't control himself?

My daughter is 25. I know what girls in their early twenties can be like. Some of them are naive and some of them are quite knowing. Some are a strange combination of both. Could Lewinsky truly have known the consequences of her actions? No. Nobody could have. No woman of any age could have foretold the uproar to follow the revelation. This is not a matter of anyone overcoming anyone else's will. That is what I am trying to explain to you. I am not saying that what Bill Clinton did was in any way right. No one, given what followed, would be crazy enough to defend his indiscretion but it wasn't rape. Lewinsky was neither forced or coerced. Nothing Lewinsky ever said about the relationship indicates that at all. Go read what she has actually said. She testified. Her version is well-documented.

Was Bill a shit? Well, duh?

That in no way disqualifies Hillary Clinton from being qualified to be president. Truly, I just don't get it that so many people cannot separate Bill's actions from his wife's. There has never been a shred of evidence that she condoned his behavior with Lewinsky or any other woman.

Nice. Underneath every Hillary supporter is a dinosaur doomed to repeat the same old gender lies.

Please elaborate on what you mean by calling me a dinosaur. It sounds to me like you are being ageist. Ageism is just as disgusting as sexism and racism. Why do you think it is not?

If you believe that Bill can be so easily led with his trousers, then why on earth do you want him back in the White House with access to a whole new group of interns? Fox in the henhouse, I think. But I'm sure you would think that he had no choice.

Just what is that you think will happen? They are interns; not pages.

Did you SEE what she was wearing? That tramp deserved it, right?

See, this is where you are being sexist. You are refusing to see Lewinsky as a adult who participated eagerly in her relationship with Bill Clinton. You are refusing to grant her any choices of her own. I never thought I would say it to another woman but it is you who are playing the victim card here. It is you who are saying that women must always, always be protected from the consequences of their own sexual choices.

I call bullshit! With this sort of protective attitude towards women you are forever infantilizing them. Men are forever the predators and women are forever the victims, the Paulines to mustache-twisting male infamy. Give it up. Monica was a victim of circumstance and her own choices more than she was a victim of Bill.