Dear Carol Lloyd and All:

Nice post, Carol! Although I DO believe that many women are being either directly or indirectly intimidated by accusations of "reverse-sexism" which, unfortunately come from both men and women AND have had a substantial influence on voting behavior, I ALSO believe that men need to ditch their sexism, big time.

To that end, I have been blogging fervently at www.MenForHillary.org (www.HillaryNowObamaLater.org) for a while now. I, of course, recommend a visit there to get a whiff of what this man thinks about the sexist playing field that we find ourselves in during this particularly vulnerable campaign season.

So, I AM DOING MY PART (unlike Mr. LaSalle) to put more nails in the coffin of men's sexist thinking and behavior. My ads at google.com read "Ditch your sexism! Elect qualified women now. (Unofficial blog) MenForHillary.org."

Keep the faith!

As a devotee of old movies, I can say I agree with the movie reviewer's take on the Hillary vs chick flicks.

By watching movies from the late 1920s to the mid 1930s you can see that women were free and glamarous and sexy and had careers. Once the Code was put into effect things began to change and women lost power--and those who were empowered had to die or be punished at the end.

Now films are full of ditzy blondes, just like TV newsrooms, in search of "meaninful relationships."

In a way, you could say that many women are voting for Obama in search of that elusive "meaninful relationship" with a man.

On the other hand, many women feel threatened by powerful women, because they feel they have to live up to that ideal and if they can't it's because "there's something wrong with them."

The U.S. is so behind the times on this. Even Latin American--the land of machismo, has two popularly elected female presidents.

Go figure.

spelling error: We liked Gov. Richardson (not Richarson)

And exactly how many Southern Baptist vote Democratic?

Your argument proves nothing except Southern Baptist are Neanderthals.

Women vote for Obama because he truly represents CHANGE.

My husband and I were both on the fence before the California primary with my husband leaning toward Obama. (We were Richarson supporters at the beginning.) We watched the CNN debate and reviewed some other speeches and policy points and I came firmly down on the Clinton side. Then I harangued my poor sweet husband and he(says, anyway)voted for Sen. Clinton. He is fine with either candidate and thinks the important races are the Senate and House seats, which is very true.

As for Mick LaSalle, I admire him for taking American movies to task for their portrayal of women and for not cultivating viable long term careers for female actresses like, for example, French cinema (Isabelle Huppert, etc.) I didn't read the blog entry in question and I don't really agree with a lot of his film reviews but he is absolutely spot on in his support of women in films. As an ex actress and screen writer, I like that about him.

I have to say some of the Obama supporters, expecially the younger white males, seem pretty demanding and domineering. I've also been surprised at a number of women I've heard say they supported Obama because their college aged children were so excited about him. I found that a little weird.

I would rather vote for Roz Russell's corpse than any of the candidates left. And I'm sure my husband would approve.

A) The reason that neither my husband nor I like "chick flick" movies is because they are frequently insipid and maudlin. Give me strong female leads like Roslin Russel, Kathryn Hepburn, and Bette Davis, snappy dialogue, and a decent plot and I will be delighted to see women's movies! Why is it that in the 1940s we got strong and smart women who could hold their own with Cary Grant. Now, with some limited exceptions, we get sidekicks, sob-sisters, or love obsessed maniacs.

B) Hillary is smart, articulate, but cannot win. I am, like most women, a pragmatist.

Oh wait, that's because the electorate is generally gullible and easily seduced by empty charisma.

i don't believe anybody over about the age of 8 or 9, no matter how desirous they are of avoiding confrontation, has any problem doing and thinking what they want when they can be sure they are alone. I can't imagine a woman alone in a voting booth not voting for who she wants regardless of how submissive she is to her husband, in fact if anything people are TOO free to use the voting booth as a place to support things they couldn't or wouldn't be able to defend to other people.

Very sweet of you to cite a SF Chronicle writer...did I get that newspaper name right? I bet they were thrilled up there and are dancing in the rain as we read this.

... those women who believe that they should submit to their husbands, aren't going to vote (rather, won't be directed to vote) for Obama or Clinton. Those that voted so far went for Huckabee, and in the general they will either stay home or vote for McCain.

So that kind of thing is a non-issue in the primary.

probably more than me, but I'd never let him vote for Hillary.

People still believe in Hell? Goodness - I thought the Universalists got us out of that theological thicket almost 200 years ago.

Proof that Hillary supporters are stuck in the past, no?

Just as many men are sexist -- women fear strong women and hate them consciously and unconsciously as well. Just read the blogs posted here on this article!

In the words of Madeleine Albright: "There is a place waiting in Hell for women who don't support women."

So have fun in Hell.

Hillary 08

Yesterday on a Progressive radio site a woman called in

to say that when she went to vote, she voted for Obama because her husband told her that a womam could not be a good President. She said he told her she could vote for McCain or

Obama but not Clinton. Asked what she would do if it was

between Obama and McCain, she said she would vote for McCain.