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Wednesday, February 6, 2008 12:00 AM

Quote of the night

A spine tingler no matter where your loyalties lie.

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Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:10 AM

amazing

When she said that I teared up.

(Nobody jump all over me for falling prey to some emotional propaganda on her part -- first of all, I'm voting for her anyway, and secondly, the truth of the statement is what got me crying, not the idea that she was thanking her mom. I can't believe that there was a time not so long ago when women were not allowed to vote. It's just so unfathomable to me. Amazing.)

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:13 AM

Yeah, that kind of gives me goose-bumps.

As ambivalent as I am about Hillary, there is no denying this bit of history.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:18 AM

Native Americans were given the vote in 1924

So there. My pity party is bigger than yours.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:19 AM

Pity Party?

No. Acknowledgment of a pretty historic moment.

I'm sorry you're so bitter. And anonymous.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:24 AM

Be careful people...

If you shed a tear, you just might get elected president.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:25 AM

Spoken like a true non immigrant

It's telling that millions of Americans have a living memory of pogroms, civil wars, expulsions, washing ashore in the US and making a life. Millions of us are first and second generation where voting in the old country was a non sequitor. But that carries no weight with the bluebloods, WASPs and the elite. And you wonder why we won't follow you blindly?

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:31 AM

One rule for you........

If Obama had made such a direct reference to the black right to vote in the USA. I think he would have been pilloried for 'playing The race card' by the very women who are praising Hillary for her blatant appeals to women on the basis of her gender.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:38 AM

What are you on about?

If Obama had made a reference to the oppression of people of African descent, it would have been just as compelling. And this woman would be disappointed if he were pilloried for that.

Hillary Clinton. Barack Obama. A woman and black man fighting it out to be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States. Truly historic.

Why is that so hard to deal with?

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:51 AM

AMAZING. Would we ever let

a one term MALE senator become president? Of course not.

But because of what is in her pants, we are supposed to place her in the White House?

If Hill had not dug up Bill and married him, she would be a small time attorney in some midwestern city today.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:57 AM

Wasn't JFK a 1 term male Senator

Well Brightstar mabe someone will shoot Obama too. So there's that.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:57 AM

And "brightstar" shows up right on cue!

To talk about how much he hates vaginas! (Although, admittedly, he softens the blow a bit by referring, oh so discreetly, to what's "in her pants".)

We may very well let a one-term MALE senator be president. And his name might be Barack Obama.

Apparently, women aren't allowed to talk about being women, and black men aren't allowed to talk about being black, in the old white male club that is Washington, DC. It's just pandering.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 07:59 AM

I think Lincoln was a one term senator....

with only two years of federal experience. And then there's Dwight Eisenhower who had no experience in government itself....

And let's not forget George Washington who got the "I only have wood teeth, I am a victim that needs special federal matching funds" pity vote but otherwise had no experience whatsoever in federal government.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:02 AM

Hey Roger,

With all due respect, let's not joke in anyway whatsoever about that. I think that all three of our frontrunners are very vulnerable this year -- there are way too many nutjobs out there that dislike them, and way too many pundits and media stars spreading hate.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:05 AM

Jeanette, I shouldn't have to tell you that a woman is more than a vagina

Frankly Jeanette, I am disgusted with how you reduce a woman solely to a vagina. Women are so much more than that, and the way you essentialize them and objectify them demeans all of us humans.

You may view yourself as just a huge vagina, and that is your prerogative, but I will speak up when you try to equate other women to a plurality of vaginas.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:09 AM

Thanks for the laugh.

I need that, posting in here.

"Plurality of Vaginas". I really like that imagery. It would make a good band name.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:11 AM

Experience

We would never let a one-and-a-half-term governor from a weak-governor state become president. Especially if his prior history was a long list of failed businesses.

To even consider that is AMAZING.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:12 AM

I love "plurality" -- I only see it on patent applications

It's a word pretty much only used by patent lawyers to mean "many".

Glad you enjoyed the humor.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:24 AM

Indeed

Lovely moment.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:24 AM

finally

Whether or not she wins, Clinton is definitely right that her candidacy is a big deal. We may think that change comes too slowly, but praise God, it really does come!

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:27 AM

We would never

let a lazy and kinda dumb B movie actor be president.

And which is it, Brightstar? She dug him up or she married up? She would never have been regarded as one of America's most influential lawyers unless she married William Jeff?

Probably more believable to imagine here as staying Republican (oh, wait, she did stay Republican).

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:29 AM

Frickin Awesome!

It only took George W screwing the country so bad that finally we can all take our collective heads out of our collective asses and see this as a bright and shining moment of change.

Wow, a Woman and a Blackman. I honestly didn't think this would happen so soon!

I really am starting to think that things happen for a reason, even W.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:31 AM

For most humans,

it is possible to separate one's feelings about a candidate from one's choices in the voting booth. Being amazed that there is a viable female presidential candidate when not that long ago women couldn't even vote, and then also not voting for that candidate, ARE possible. I think it was an amazing moment. I thought Obama's similar moment after Iowa was just as "spine-tingling," to use the accurate language in the subhead.

For me, though, neither moment changes the fact that if the white, male, progressive were still on the ballot in Vermont in March, he would have received my vote.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:44 AM

Voting Rights

So, Hilary's mom wasn't born with the right to vote. Guess what - neither was Obama's dad. Or even Obama himself. Blacks were only guaranteed a full right to vote by the National Voting Rights Act of 1965 - passed when Obama was four years old.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:52 AM

Quote of the Night?

I think that is Quote of the Year.

Wednesday, February 6, 2008 08:52 AM

One term senators-- be they male, female, black, white-- are just wrong

The world and the US is more complex than it was decades ago.

On the other hand, you can argue the president is only a figurehead nd check signer, so maybe it is OK.

On the third hand, Hill and Obama and All the Republicans But Ron Paul are all tools of the elite internationalist establishment anyway, so why would ANYONE vote for them unless the voters despise the United States?

But that is another issue, to be discussed after one of these clowns gets into Washington and further destroys this country and it is too late and the voters can then bully the rest of us ans say, "it is now too late and we control you because we are the majority and we are too stupid to have voted for Ron Paul when he said he would save the country, as he undoubtedly would have. HA HA HAA!!"

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