I'm just dreading the coming Post-Vigoda era myself.

See above. I needed that.

I think what we--as women and as a larger society--have failed to grasp is that feminism--like any other social and political movement is *not* dead. It's just morphed. What "women's issues" looked like to the Sufragettes is different than what "women's issues" looked like to the "bra burners" of the 1960's, and these issues take their own forms for women today.

"Women's issues" of today are related to our cultural understanding and conceptions and complex, lived experiences of family, politics, career and health, etc. The issues of feminism surround us--we swim in it. The very debate about the nature of feminism and its relevance suggests that these fundamental concerns about our lives as women, young and old--these "issues" of feminism--will never be dead.

It is time for the next generation of young men and women to stake their own claims, to decide what "women's issues" matter most to them and speak with their voices and with their own vocabularies.

Let's not get hung up the word "feminism" and let these tensions around "what it means" and "is it relevant?" become a productive touchpoint around we move forward in our dialogue on the multivaried, complex "women's issues" that touch all of our lives.

we need another "call to arms...."

Because there haven't been enough call to arms that, as exemplified by Broadsheet Journalism(TM), use a facade of journalism as a cover for shoddy and lazy research used to advance a cause that many women and men have good concerns about.

Should one journalist be calling on another journalist to hone her journalistic methods to turn a trend piece into a call to arms?

That doesn't sound like journalism....

Comparing Hillary to Ann Coulter is just wrong and shows how trival the writer wants to make this.

Actually, it illustrates the "not getting it."

I remember the youngsters saying in the last election that there was no difference between Gore and Bush too. If you are a talking head with plenty of swagger it's cool to effect a pose of teasing out whether it would be good for feminists to vote for a woman or a man. It is a statistical trend that women get more in support of feminism as they grow older, because unlike other ethic and minority groups, their power in society decreases as they get older. With white and black guys, they grow in esteem as they get older and accumulate value. So they actually grow more conservative, because it works for them, as they get older.

I know, I know, you know one exception you want to mention. However, the broad trend is not there. All you have to do is watch one of those reality shows where a young woman gets makeup to look like a 50 or 55 year old and she is amazed at how differently she is treated. I know, I know, "with you it will be different." But bear in mind, what older feminists experience is quite different than what a teen and twenty feminist experience at entry level at the peak of age that society values in women.

Bear in mind. Clinton has a track record of supporting choice and getting in the face of world leaders about women. She made speeches in China and the Middle East that women's rights are human rights. She does not sit on the fence.

Feminists should know their history and for a person who claims to be a civil rights activist and to not know about King or to be a gay rights activist and not know about Stonewall -- it's a loss. People shouldn't brag about or shrug knowledge.

It is time for the next generation of young men and women to stake their own claims, to decide what "women's issues" matter most to them and speak with their voices and with their own vocabularies.

What women experience in the young age group is always going to be different than an older woman, in her fifties and sixties and going for that promotion and dealing with discrimination. It's sad that the discrimination starts with feminists, dismissing the older ones to be pushed aside. I think that is the definition of irony that women cannot value women.

Remember, age is the journey we all have to make. it's sad that younger women go down the path of dismissing the claims of older women as if it's old hat. While unlike any other minority, discrimination of women gets worse as they age. The older feminists' agenda is your agenda and growing on your horizon.

You can stake your claim in your twenties, but society presents you with another set of issues and different treatment as you get older. When you make up the t-shirt of "this is what feminism looks like" it is also a silver haired chubby woman.

We win! The Patriarchy rules supreme for ever more!

We can now call off our secret meetings of White Male Oppression where we meet in our boardrooms and cook up new ways to promote anorexia, and bribe Engineering Instructors to giving their female students lower grades, and extra pay bonuses to CEOs for not promoting women, create new frontiers for 'objectifying' women, and new ways to 'sexualize society'.

I don't know how you clever minxes knew about our secret meetings, you must have spies and secret cameras everywhere. No matter how many precautions we took, you caught on to our nefarious plans.

It was a good fight, ladies. Now get back to the kitchen.

Yours,

Patriarchy Everlasting Nefariously In Society

Hey Giggles, fetch me my slippers and a martini!

It's good to be king...

Feminism, like most -isms has just become another flag under which people can be rallied and controlled. Voting for Hillary because she is a woman isn't a feminist statement, it's idiocy. So is voting for Obama because he's black or McCain because he's old. If any one's idea of feminism is blind support of all women at all times, then feminism deserves to die.