Letters to the Editor
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It's nothing like using the n word.... In fact, many women (and men) like the word and many Broadsheeters too
Just check back to October and early November when we last had this discussion.
Stop being a church lady. Especially you DurianJoe.
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To the letter writer formerly known as Prince.
Did you really once call yourself "Emmanuel Kunt"? That is really, really sad.
Greeneyekzin called you a "schande fur die Goyim." To that I would add that you are what my late grandmother would call a "nebbish."
As with Thrasher and some of the other truly obnoxious trolls here, there is no good to respond to you again.
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To DubiousJoe
Apparently you have a reading problem. I never used the handle "Emanuel Kunt".
Did you learn your amazing skills of ad hominem at the knee of your grandmother? I suspect not. You should not drag her into your incompetency.
I grew up in a family and culture that valued diversity and encouraged speech and the discussion of differing opinions. I bet you did too -- it makes me wonder where you went bad. :(
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As Madame President said,
It's only in the United States, and even here, only in some portions that cunt is really considered an awful word.
Even at Broadsheet, some Broadsheet staff feel perfectly fine using the word cunt. Cunt. Just say it. It has a nice, rough, sensual feel to it. It positively just oozes and reeks of sex.
And other Broadsheeters are so skered of it they have to refer to it as the c-word. And let it overpower them. They are helpless before teh c-word. Reduced to infants.
It's just a word.
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The "C" word and Hillary's offense.
"Calling a woman a "c*nt" is denying her brain, her intellect, her personality, her personhood."
I agree that using this term is trying to cut a woman down, but actually, the term is from the same root word as "cunning". Having a brain and using it while being female IS the offense in a sexist culture. You may disagree with Clinton's actions or politics, but if you respected a person as a person and simply disagreed with their voting record, it's unlikely you'd go that low and make such a T-shirt.
This is a pretty taboo term in our culture right now, I think most people will stop at "bitch" and many women have reclaimed that word. Hillary is advancing and she is successful, so the backlash is getting worse. That term hasn't surfaced in reference to her before she won in two state caucuses, now has it?
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Sorry Durian Joe, but I have to disagree.
Durian, I love you like a brother, but I have to disagree.
You wrote:
"I'm revolted by the people here who are defending the use of this slur against women. It is exactly like calling a black person a "nigger," or a Jew (as I am) a "kike," or a gay man a "faggot," or so on."
As I said, the word cunt doesn't give a racial distinction, and it can be applied to straight women, bisexual women, or lesbians. Also a woman doesn't always have to be a cunt, she can redeem herself.
Just as a man doesn't always have to be a douchebag.
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LOL
Congratulations symbol boy, you gave me a good reason to respond to you.
Whoops, you never called yourself "Emmanuel Kunt." I got a letter wrong. To quote from one of your posts, "And in the past, when I have posted using other pseudonyms, the Broadsheet Moderators chose to find my pseudonyms so offensive (Immanuel Kunt for example)."
Whatever you call yourself, you're just a nebbish.
I don't think you can top yourself, so this is goodbye, and good luck, because you need it.
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Fetboy.
Okay, we disagree, but then, we disagreed about your consumption of pigs, too. :)
We disagree even more in that I consider "douchebag," too goofy to even approach the level of "nigger" or "cunt," especially when said properly, which is with a comically low and drawn out voice.
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Regarding dick
(Sorry, I just had to use that subject line.)
I don't believe there's any insult specific to men that carries quite the sting of "cunt." "Dick" was mentioned above, especially when referring to the Cheney variety, but it's a lower-level insult. Consider: male friends call each other "dick" fairly regularly. I could get called a dick just for, for instance, playing a trick on somebody. Or, if a friend did something vaguely rude, I wouldn't hesitate to say, "Geez, whatta dick!"
In contrast, I have never heard a woman use "cunt" when referring to a friend. As a matter of fact, when a woman refers to an acquaintance as a cunt it is practically a flashing neon sign declaring that said person is, now and forevermore, an ex-friend. As a poster mentioned above, there's a real tinge of betrayal to the word; the word says, "I despise her."
Which, perhaps, is giving it too much power. Nevertheless, I don't think the word is going to be defused any time soon due to usage by America's church-going, self-proclaimed moral-bedrock conservatives.
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Oh gosh no! I've been othered by DubiousJoe! He's called me a sniff, nebbish. Where is my hanky?
Nebbish? That's all you got in your arsenal? You have the entire yiddish language to fall back on, and you shot your wad with nebbish?
Oh by the way, apparently King David was a nebbish.
http://archive.salon.com/books/feature/2001/02/07/solomon/index1.html
I didn't read the whole article. Too long.
Anyway, whaaah! My feelings are all hurt now.
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@ fetboy
I would like you to do me a favor and think about what the words douche and douchebag actually mean. Can you understand that they are also insults to women, that they are misogynistic? To call a man a pussy is to insult him by equating him with what is female. Many homophobic type insults are really calling a man as less than a man, in other words, more female. They are insults because they are associated with women or femininity. Even the words like son of a bitch and motherfucker, implicate women as somehow a source or sin or inferiority.
Many myths of religious or mythical origin see women as the cause of trouble. Eve caused Adam to eat that apple. Pandora opened that box of troubles.
We actually have a modern myth that surrounds the Clintons. Hillary was a bitch, ball-buster, cunt, cold, wouldn't give head, dominated, is ugly, is ___________________ (fill in the blank) and actually caused Bill to get blow jobs from Monica. If she had only been on the job as a subservient wife tending to her sexual duties, all that dreadful stuff would never have happened. If not for Hillary, Bill would never have been a round-heeled slut who, although attractive to women, narcissistically hated to take no for an answer. If not for Hillary, we would never have had to deal with that embarassing impreachment, or had eight years of George W. Bush, or even had the war, the falling economy, the dominance of the right. And so on. Therefore Hillary is the root of all evil. To the right she is cunt because she allowed her husband to cheat on her and then conspired in his national contrition and forgivness. To the left, she caused Gore to "lose" the election because he couldn't call on Bill Clinton as a president of good reputation to campaign for him. If only she had been everything her husband needed, Monica wouldn't have happened. When a woman cheats, it's her fault. When a man cheats, it's his wife's fault.
Certain trolls on this thread are always calling on women to accept responsibility. Oddly enough, they also want women to accept responsibility for men's sexual choices and men's bad behavior.