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It doesn't sound like she called Sen. Clinton "mannish"
Wintour's remarks don't sound like she was calling Clinton mannish, rather that she was scornful of the idea that Sen. Clinton would be disadvantaged if she appeared in Vogue looking "too feminine."
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More GOTV for Hillary from Broadsheet...
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Wintour didn't say "Hillary Clinton is mannish."
If she did, show me where.
Wintour did complain about the fact that Clinton, in turning down a photo shoot because she'd feared she'd come off as too "feminine," holds the IDEA that one must look more mannish to be taken seriously in politics.
And apparently, in turning down the photo opp -- and in choosing for her political uniform a plain, dark pantsuit -- Clinton apparently DOES have that fear.
That doesn't mean that Hillary goes around looking "mannish" -- she just looks like almost ALL us women here in Washington -- she dresses conservatively, not feminine or sexy, and not especially fashionably.
And WHO CARES???????
And really, truly... WHO cares WHAT the that rude, Botoxed, anorexic fashion-Gestapo hiding behind a big pair of sunglasses thinks about politics or politicians anyway?
Are you writers at Broadsheet so conflict-addicted and Hillary-adoring that you have to CREATE imaginary conflicts just to get out your ya-yas and find a daily opportunity to GOTV for Hillary?
Yeesh...
Aren't you folks already busy enough drumming up ways to trash Michelle Obama?
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Just an echo
Two writers have already pointed out that Wintour didn't call Clinton mannish, she only lamented the notion that a woman would need to look that way to be in politics. I am just echoing this to remind the authors that they should either read more carefully or stop twisting words around to create controversy where none exists. Leave this to Republican campaign staff.
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Wintour is delusional
Hillary was right not to do VOGUE. It's fluffy and not befitting a presidential candidate, male or female. Anna Wintour may think her baby is the most serious and high-toned of the women's fashion magazines, but that does not make it any more than it is--a FASHION magazine. Wintour's utterly clueless response just plays up the fact that Hillary made the right call.
Plus, I don't buy Hillary as a fashionista, but I don't think it makes her any less feminine or less of a woman. The sum total of femininity is not FASHION, despite what Wintour might have us all believe.
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A Woman's Prerogative is to Change Her Mind, Right Hillary?
I agree -- Wintour's a twit, Vogue is not a "serious" magazine, and if I were Hillary, I wouldn't sign on to do it either.
But she agreed to do it. It's not like Vogue was somehow Newsweek, and had a total 180 revamp into a fashion mag in between Hillary agreeing to do it, and the scheduled interview/photo shoot.
So she changes her mind about what she thinks and offers a specious explanation for why she changed her mind. Anyone else having visions of WMDs? Or Johnson's lame-o explanation of smearing Obama? Or any one of a 100 other things Hillary seems to equivocate about.
Seems to be a habit for her, doesn't it?
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"Oh no she didn't!"
Um, speaking of reading more carefully? Those of the first words or Ms. Clark-Flory's post.
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@Melt... read again...
"Oh no she didn't" in Tracy Clark-Flory's opening is a colloquial way to express disbelief.
TCF is basically saying, "Can you believe she said this" about Wintour.
(From my read, it's clear that TCF is saying that Wintour said that Hillary is mannish.)
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Can we please...
...stop using the phrases "Oh no she didn't!", "(x) and (y) and (z), oh my!", and "You go girl!". Overused cliches.
And I'd like to slam AncientAssyrian for equating 'thin' with 'anorexia'.
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fashion is power
Anna Wintour is at least somewhat correct. Any woman who dismisses the power of fashion is abandoning precise and powerful tools available to women. I like Hillary but believe that, in this case, she made a big mistake. (Also, Ms. Wintour is no slacker--she runs an empire of her own, and her message reaches millions of eager readers.)
I've long thought that Mrs. Clinton ought to make better use of style. Nancy Pelosi gets it. Oprah gets it. Madonna gets it. Even Condi Rice gets it. (When Ms. Rice was berated for shopping for shoes during the the Katrina disaster, I thought, you go girl.)
If I were going after an important job, I'd apply all the fashion savvy at my disposal. I'm pretty sure I got my current position because I showed up for the interview wearing a Prada skirt and Manolo Blahnik Mary Janes (plus a J. Crew sweater set). Sure, I had the skills to back me up. But the bottom line remains the same through the ages: Style is Everything.
If you're reading this, Senator Clinton, I strongly recommend that you do what stylish American girls do: Get your game on and bust up the scene.
You'll be untouchable.
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That's not what I read
First, I take offense at Anna's quote being slightly misrepresented. I mean sure, I suppose you could read because Anna thinks Clinton fears appearing too feminine and thinks she needs to be more mannish, that therefore Anna is calling Clinton "mannish". From reading the quote though, that is not the intent I interpreted. I read it as meaning, what a shame it is that even today, a woman cannot embrace her natural femininity for fear of not attaining the posistions she desires, that women to be taken seriously still need to be seen as close to a man as possible.
As for appearing in Vouge, I don't think that is any different than appearing on Oprah, Ellen, The Daily Show, The Colbert Report, The Tonight Show or Late Night with David Letterman as many of the candidates have done; like Huckabee, Obama, Kucinich, Paul, and McCain.
When you are a politician running for the highest office, it makes sense to try to get your message out to places where many people will see it. Plenty of women read Vouge, just as plenty of the youth and late nighters watch the interview entertainment shows. Plenty of people do not feel like tuning into debates, or reading daily news reports so I see no problem with politicians modernizing and reaching out on different venues. It's not like Vouge is Entertainment Weekly or Cosmopolitan.