Letters to the Editor
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What's ironic about this campaign
It's the woman who has by far the best science policy.
Hillary really seems to understand what American science needs to recover from the Bush years.
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AKA Smith: you logic is convoluted and from my vantage point very flawed but I understand why..
Your contrast between color prejudice and racism is nonsense and in my view a legal fiction becuase as a white woman you are and have been defensive about my posts which make the posture that white woman essentially are no differnet from white males given they played the surrogate white master often in dealings with Black folks.
In other words white woman have always been privledged and the feminism movement was always about thier legitimate but selfish agenda and black woman woman were clearly an aferthought if a thought at all..
I think your reluctance to embrace and affirm a black man over Edwards is in part a reflection of your cultural dna that is present in all whites who have lived in our country when it comes times to shared parity with blacks... It is an conflicting situation similar to blacks who were no longer slaves..freedom was odd and many blacks actually perferred the normacy of slavery as crazy as that is...
I would wager like your white male counterpart in your life you have never been taught by black, never had a black doctor/ boss, never went to temple or church where you worshiped a black diety, never really relied on or had a black person make a significant life altering decison for you for black folks all of the converse is true..
Given the demographics of those who blogg and chat on the internet you do reflect these obvious traits so it is easy for me to understand your themes.
In summary I do understand your tentative demeanor tonite and of course why you favor Edwards over Obama. I also respect your willingness to be educated as well by me a liberated Black man..
More to come ...
Goodnite..
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You made my point beautifully, AKA Smith
The point being that the backlash against media misogyny gave lie to Steinem's unnuanced thesis of competitive feminism: that women have it worse than black males (though after asserting she lapses into incoherence by claiming she does not intend any competition for the title of most oppressed). The outcome of todays race hardly supports her thesis--to take an extremely narrow view of the matter, since there is ample historical evidence to the contrary. Steinem is flirting with racism at this point.
As far as political affinities go, Edwards is the only progressive running on the democratic ticket in fifty years. The standard analysis about corporate media explains why the press doesn't mention Edwards, unless the Democratic front runners are concerned. Both Obama and Clinton are corporate democrats.
I do not want a Republican in office--I do not want to see Roe v. Wade overturned. I object to prevalent anti-male bias--it's not as big a problem as sexism, but it does disproportionately affect minority males.
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@ Thrasher
Tentative? You must be dreaming. I have never been tentative at a keyboard in my life! Okay, well, I have had writer's block but that is not same thing. I have been polite, but let me assure you that that is not the same thing as tentative and you are straining my politeness.
I am not defensive about white women. I will defend feminism. Furthermore, I knew you would not like what I had to say about color prejudice. So be it.
I am for Edwards because he has a detailed platform focused upon ways to help people out of poverty and on helping out the the working poor. If you want to call me prejudiced for that, then go ahead. However, may I suggest that your attacks on feminism may not be exactly helping Obama.
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A couple more things Thrasher that might save you some words.
I have no liberal guilt because I was innoculated against it by libertarianism.
I have no middle class guilt because for almost 50 years of my life I was poor. And some of that, I was truly destitute poor -- as in homeless.
Maybe you should work on someone who has actually been truly priviledged.
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@ Anonymous 9:15
I am tempted to tell you to get the hell off my team, but John Edwards needs all the help he can get.
Are you responsible for this this disgusting post about being raped by Ninjas post in Cary's column with the letter begging for help from the suicidal molestation victim?
http://letters.salon.com/mwt/col/tenn/2008/01/09/sexual_abuse/view/index4.html?show=all
It was posted at 9:06 and it looks like the hideous handiwork of the Obnoxious Anonymous. If it was you, I just want you to know that you could be responsible for pushing someone over the edge with an insensitive and ridiculous post like that.
Of course I cannot pin it on you because you are always Anonymous, but I just want you to know that I absolutely intend to complain.
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I just thought I would post this link
in case someone should get the impression that there are no black feminists:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_feminism
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from black to black-
get off the slave refs. we live in 2008, we did not and do not have slaves, we fight for freedom for all people hand in hand! we need unity and not your posturing and competitive style. you are on a liberal and open-minded site insulting anyone who may appear (or tells you that they are) white.
"white woman essentially are no differnet from white males given they played the surrogate white master often in dealings with Black folks." - so you've decided to join the very racists you blame for everything, because you say things just like them.
thrasher, do you have to pick a fight with everyone to make yourself feel important?
self-aggrandizing and self-proclaimed "leader", you are harming your own cause! you are not my leader. stop acting as if you are the voice of black america.
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Nice try at victimhood. The problem is Hillary won.
If a non-feminist makes a claim and proves it wrong, (s)he usually admits it (or, at least, other people says that (s)he is wrong).
Not so with feminism. Gloria Steinem tries to depict the big injustice that American male chauvinism is making with Hillary in order to prepare in advance the justification and rationalization for the Hillary's defeat. But then Hillary wins New Hampshire.
Will Gloria Steinem admit she was wrong? No way. Before this, hell will freeze.
- Now that Hillary won New Hampshire, this was in spite of male chauvinism.
- And if she had lost, it would have been only a proof of male chauvinism.
So no matter what facts are, some theories cannot be disproved. Feminism is a metaphysical theory (like religions), because it cannot be disproved (this is the definition of metaphysical theories, read for example philosopher Karl Popper's works).
It is not science nor a description of the truth. It is simply a cult of victimhood.