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What do sex dolls have in common with American Girl dolls? The powerful spell of plastic perfection.
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  • Real Dolls: a fascinating subject worthy of its own article

    A shy guy with a real doll is to be pitied, not ridiculed. I do find it a little creepy, but far less creepy than the fake vaginas I found at one of my local sex shops (don't ask). It's exactly what it sounds like: a vagina. That's all. EEWWW!!! At least a real doll has other human features.

    And read up on the real dolls: the guy who makes them talks about how he sometimes gets them returned completely mangled, beaten, disfigured, with limbs broken off. Apparently some men are using these dolls to work out real issues. Scary to think they may move onto human women.

    How about an article about these dolls, and the people who purchase them, Salon? Instead of this ridiculously odd, handwringing slow newsday of comparing a child's toy to a sex doll. I think this column has officially jumped the shark.

  • Sure about that, Carol?

    with whom some men have committed relationships

    That's "with WHICH". "With whom" implies the object is a person, whereas "with which" presents it as, well, an object. Ironically, your phrasing puts you in the camp that sees those "creepy" dolls as real people. (Me, I think they're hilarious.)

    See, this is the advantage of knowing and using correct grammar - you won't make any embarrassing Freudian slips along the way.

  • did you see the rental doll site?

    That is hands down the craziest shit I have ever seen.

  • Ummm.....

    bluecanary:

    but far less creepy than the fake vaginas I found at one of my local sex shops (don't ask). It's exactly what it sounds like: a vagina. That's all. EEWWW!!!

    Last time I was at a sex shop, I saw a fake penis! It's exactly what it sounds like: a penis. That's all. EEWWW!!!!

    Sexist, much?

  • Does anyone know one of these guys?

    I'm not very articulate tonight, so I'll just say that my sentiments are similar to those of brightstar65, upthread.

    But my question is: does anyone know a man who has a "committed relationship" with a sex doll? Because I don't, and I have only seen such on television programs. I think it is mostly a television program thing. Sure, a lot of men are losers, and I guess someone is buying these dolls. But "committed relationships"? I think there is a lot less here than meets the eye.

  • Salon already wrote that article...

    How about an article about these dolls, and the people who purchase them, Salon? Instead of this ridiculously odd, handwringing slow newsday of comparing a child's toy to a sex doll. I think this column has officially jumped the shark.

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    http://dir.salon.com/story/mwt/feature/2005/10/11/real_dolls/index.html

  • I'm w/ whonvited

    maybe there are a few thousand men who are in 'love' with dolls?

    Millions of women literally are in love with their penis shaped vibrators or other convenient utensils.

  • Breathe, Carol.

    Seriously?

    I loved Kirsten because I had a love affair with 19th century pioneer life in general when I was about 9--Dr. Quinn, Medicine Woman...Little House on the Prairie. Perfect??? They sure are pretty, and their stuff is nifty, I won't deny it...but I sympathized with Kirsten when she felt dumb at school, didn't speak the same language as the other kids (literally in her case, socially in mine), felt like she couldn't get anything right. Have you read the books?

    As far as Evil Threats To Our Little Girls go, I rank American Girls low.

    Barbie--I performed medical experiments on my Barbies.

  • Literally, As In "Literally"?

    > Millions of women literally are in love with their

    > penis shaped vibrators or other convenient utensils.

    BrightStar, I have never met a single woman who was "literally in love" with her vibrator or similar sex toy. Nor read a description of such (serious, not ironic or humorous) in the many blogs I've seen on the wide, wide web.

    A male (or even female) life-size sex doll, maybe. Women can be obsessive-compulsive too (which is the syndrome this looks like to me). But a vibrator? Never.

    Similarly, I have never met or read about a man who was literally in love with his jacku-sleeve or other such device.

    You have made a statement about "millions" of women being literally in love with their vibrators. Can you cite any evidence (serious, not ironic or humorous) for that assertion at all? Can you even find *three* women who meet the description you give for "millions"?

    As far as I can tell, you simply make up statements that you consider derogatory to women, and present them as fact. Perhaps this is why you've had such unhappy experiences interacting with real women.

    Alternatively, maybe you don't know what the words "literally" and "love" mean, and have your own little definitions.

  • dolls

    ... are creepy.

  • I love porn as much as the next guy...

    but I'm sorry, those fake vaginas look like something a serial killer would put in his freezer! I'm willing to give the dildos a little more slack here. At least they don't include half a torso with them!

  • Perfection? I think not...

    If you think those guys buy the dolls for their perfection (or their silence), I think you're missing the point. They're buying an outlet for a basic human desire.

    No one would call me "creepy" or "a loser," but I don't blame those guys at all. You can only get burned so many times before you stop reaching for the stove. Some good men (like me) just "move on" and quit worrying about companionship. Others try something radical, and it feels positive for them.

    And it's probably a lot less sexist than you think. Neither "lonely" or "horny" is fundamentally sexist. Judging a guy to be "a loser" for feeling he doesn't have any other options? Maybe.

  • Ms. Lloyd, I'm sure you would prefer me.

    I have an inability to relate romantically to women. I won't go into details, but I wasted a decade of my life trying. So I've given up.

    Inasmuch as I'm not rich, and because I know that pretending that a doll is a living being is a stupid fraud, I didn't buy a "Real Doll" either.

    So, by your standards, am I less a pathetic, creepy, useless male than someone with a lot of money and the ability to fantasize?

    Not that it matters to me all that much; I just want to know what kind of crackhead standards you wish to apply to men you don't personally manipulate and debase. Just for future reference.