Letters to the Editor
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OMG! Viagra!
Where's the tirade against Viagra? Isn't it just an excuse to "medicalize" men's sexual issues? Doesn't it just let us blame him--rather than his partner?
Come on, Salon. A little equity, please, before you go off like this.
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To all women.
Is there really a need for a woman's version of Viagra? I always though my charming personality, honesty, respectfulness, concern, caring, compassion, passion, and romanticism, was the female version of Viagra, and that I was far from the only man or woman that was capable of producing the female version of Viagra.
Am I wrong?
Or do you all need a chemical supplement in addition to a lover's charming personality, honesty, respectfulness, concern, caring, compassion, passion, and romanticism?
Even when wetness was an issue, I found a "natural way" to get around that problem.
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Why must women's problems always be in their head?!!
Isn't this what feminists have fought so hard against for years? Lots of things can cause low libido. If it is an emotional/psychological issue, all the testosterone in the world isn't going to get the tingle going. It would be nice for women to have something to try to rule out a physical cause before having to start seeing a shrink (which most health insurance doesn't cover) over low libido. And then there is the vicious cycle of getting depressed because you have a low libido, which may have physical origins, but is now compounded by depression and stress. Maybe a woman's emotional state would be lifted by getting her libido back. It seems like the medical estabishment can't win. If they seek out physical reasons for women's conditions, they're ignoring our emotions and seeking to profit off of us. If they tell us our problems are psychological, they're condecending, patronizing and paternalistic.
And this headline is wrong, the product being tested is a topical testosterone cream, not a pill.
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a shorter version
basically what you're saying is that if a man has sexual problems it is his fault and if a women has sexual problems, it is the man's fault. ("it can be seen as simply her -- rather than her lover's -- fault.")
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To burrnini
A man with sexual problems is pathetic, where as a woman with sexual problems is usually with a man who is pathetic.
I'm not pathetic, and my wife definitely doesn't have a sexual problem.
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prediction
The biggest customers will be men, and women will suddenly be offered a lot of upper arm massages...
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to fetboy,
i don't care. your sex life is not at all relevant to this topic or to my post.
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To Anonymous
"prediction
The biggest customers will be men, and women will suddenly be offered a lot of upper arm massages..."
Which is probably why the product was thought up and being developed by men.
If the project to invent the women's Viagra was being run by women, they would invent a drug that made men more sensitive, witty, and charming. And I wonder if women would slip that drug into bar room glasses?
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if women want to regard any questioning of their low libido as patriarchal oppression fine
but would it be too much to ask that these same women stop with the screaming that mens' higher libidio is a plot to oppress or "objectify" or "sexualize" women? Yes of course it would be.
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To Anonymous on January 2, 2008 08:29 PM
Wrote:
"but would it be too much to ask that these same women stop with the screaming that mens' higher libidio is a plot to oppress or "objectify" or "sexualize" women? Yes of course it would be."
Only if the men in question acknowledge that their sexual arousal entitles them to nothing, and graciously accept their fate when they get nothing when and if they are ever aroused.
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Viagra
...there's also an argument to be made against over-reliance on pharmaceutical treatments like LibiGel (and Viagra, even) in that they ignore emotional or relational causes of a low libido.
Um, excuse me, but as any doctor will tell you, Viagra does not cause sexual desire. Viagra helps men whose libido is just fine, but whose physical state doesn't allow them to carry through on their desires. An older man can be absolutely turned on by a woman in every way, and still need a little help. Thus it doesn't sound like Viagra and LibiGel are exactly analogous.
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Cost of coitus: Male monkeys pay for sex
PARIS (AFP) - Selling sex is said to be humankind's oldest profession but it may have deep evolutionary roots, according to a study into our primate cousins which found that male macaques pay for intercourse by using grooming as a currency.
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Michael Gumert of Nanyang Technological University in Singapore made the discovery in a 20-month investigation into 50 long-tailed macaques in Kalimantan Tengah, Indonesia, New Scientist reports on Saturday.
On average, females had sex 1.5 times per hour.
But this rate jumped to 3.5 times per hour immediately after the female had been groomed by a male -- and her partner of choice was likely to be the hunky monkey that did the grooming.
Market forces also acted on the value of the transaction.
If there were several females in the area, the cost of buying sex would drop dramatically -- a male could "buy" a female for just eight minutes of nit-picking.
But if there were no females around, he would have to groom for up to 16 minutes before sex was offered.
The work supports the theory that biological market forces can explain social behaviour, the British weekly says.
"There is a very well-known mix of economic and mating markets in the human species itself," said Ronald Noe of France's University of Strasbourg.
"There are many examples of rich old men getting young attractive ladies."
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how about this Fet: I'll be as gracious as women are when men don't do what they want
you believe in equality don't you? (Obviously this is entirely theoretical, if men responded with one tenth the intensity that women do when they don't get their way the human race would be extinct).
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Seriously, is there anything creepier than PetBoy bragging about how satisfied he makes women?
This guy claims to be a feminist, he stalks TCF and calls out for more pictures of her, and now he's bragging about his skills in bed.
PetBoy, what color are the bricks in your basement world?
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I get it, PetBoy
you hate men. I get it already...
A man with sexual problems is pathetic, where as a woman with sexual problems is usually with a man who is pathetic.
A man with sexual problems is
A man with sexual problems. Nothing more, nothing less. Your bias is that you fully buy all the negative portrayals of men and positive portrayals of women as gospel.
Just the way feminists like it-- meaning you have no sense of self or pride in your sex.
You just despise men.
MAKING YOU PATHETIC.
Let's get your attitude straightened out, shall we?
Many women cannot orgasm no matter who they have intercourse with. The biological component of this approaches 50%.
This means there is some element of psychology to it too, and a woman with a 'pathetic' man will indeed find it hard to warm up to him. But if she has a problem with not liking men in general, or if she is predisposed to think of men are untrustworthy, you can see the problem is STILL in her head and not with the guy she is with.
I have heard of enough cases of women I have known thru people who were basically MENTALLY ILL when it came to sex. For instance, one woman prayed for hours before sex as if it was something evil. You can imagine the number that did to her poor husband.