Letters to the Editor
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AN IMPORTANT CAUTION ! ! !
No one should stop taking any of the drugs I have mentioned cold turkey. It is extremely dangerous to stop any psych drug abruptly. Doing this can cause suicidal thoughts, panic reactions, and even psychosis. Some new SSRIs are alleged to cause less weight gain. Some antidepressants, like Wellbutrin, cause little weight gain. Always talk to your doctor before stopping any such medication and always taper off very slowly -- even maybe more slowly than your doctor suggests.
Also, as frustrating as it may be to some, for some conditions medication is absolutely necessary. If the choice is your weight or your sanity, stay sane. Sane is better.
Be well and love yourself. For people who are overweight: You are not your weight.
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what happened to the thread
Carol Lloyd posted: "Overweight white women suffer a significant wage penalty. Research shows it's only getting worse."
I can't understand why folks want to argue about whether people can help being fat. Or want to point out that you can't tell if people are making healthy choices by just looking at them. Is it okay to give a wage penalty to only one group for visibly not making healthy choices? Is healthy choices really the altar you're hanging your logic around why only "overweight white women suffer a significant wage penalty?"
The point is not whether people can help being fat. I guess if they can't we burn them at the stake. The point is not about it being okay to judge people harshly for not making healthy choices, which by the way you can't tell by looking at them that they are making healthy choices. Yes that was painful to write.
Geeze, it's like a lot of people can't wrap their minds around Carol's posting. Do overweight white women deserve equitable pay? Why do all other groups of people miss getting penalized?
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Anonymous
Of course overweight white women should not make less money based upon their weight. It's just that many people would far rather blame people for being overweight than to acknowledge that it has absolutely nothing to do with their work skills.
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so smith do you ever think the pharmecutical industry will be able to produce enough drugs to SIMULTANEOUSLY
prevent people from offing themselves due to depression AND avoid becoming bloated parasitic blobs? and how will the REMAINING SMALL SEGMENT of the population avoid suicidal depression themselves when THEIR entire individual and collective efforts are devoted solely to cleaning up the mess. I work with a lot of fat women and even though the organization functions it would function a lot better if they were thin and healthy rather than fat and unhealthy. So are they "doing the job" or not?
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Questions:
Why do you dehumanize (yes, that's the correct word) overweight people by calling them "parasitic blobs"? That's completely fucking rude.
Secondly, detail how and why these overweight women would do their jobs better if they lost weight.
Frankly (particularly if you really are Fat Family Anonymous, whose posts on all matters--not just weight-related--are usually incoherent and always ludicrous), you are all obnoxious, catty posturing and don't have anything meaningful to add to this discussion. Feel free to continue to ignore my suggestion that you get therapy ASAP.
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Questions:
Why do you dehumanize (yes, that's the correct word) overweight people by calling them "parasitic blobs"? That's completely fucking rude.
Secondly, detail how and why these overweight women would do their jobs better if they lost weight. What are they, professional tap dancers or something? Remember, if they have attitude problems it's probably a direct result of having to deal with you.
Frankly (particularly if you really are Fat Family Anonymous, whose posts on all matters--not just weight-related--are usually incoherent and always ludicrous), you are all obnoxious, catty posturing and don't have anything meaningful to add to this discussion. Feel free to continue to ignore my suggestion that you get therapy ASAP.
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whoops
Sorry for the double-post!
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reasons why the organization would work better if everyone were thin and healthy
the thin healthy people are never sick/injured the fat ones often are; the fat ones move a lot slower; everyone's health insurance premiums would be less; extra money has to be spent and extra room taken up by "fat friendly" ergonomic chairs, cubicles, etc. People who actually deal with OTHER PEOPLE'S FAT know what is really going on. All the fat apologists are either fat themselves and in denial or they have never had to deal with the consequences of other people being fat. Enjoy it while you can.
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Are you serious?
"The fat people move a lot slower"? Thanks for the laugh. Most office jobs have people sitting on their asses 99% of the time. Ditto for the stupidity of the other points, which I bet you made up anyway.
You apparently have no idea how ridiculously you are coming across. Again, stop confusing your personal family issues with having anything valid to say. There's no point in anyone here wasting any more time on you.
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My story
I was one of those "skinny women who suddenly got fat" being spoken of. And I mean skinny. Not skinny the way most people see it (i.e. under a size 10), but really skinny. 95 lbs, size 0 skinny. I'm a vegetarian and a healthy eater, and I've always been slim, in the 98-102 range.
So I was 39, tired of heavy, painful periods and not loving paying so much for the Pill. I read about the Depo Provera shot, which you take once every 3 months and your periods stop. STOP! Woo-hoo!! Sign me up!! I go to my lady parts doc, and she warns me that I'll gain weight. Me: "So? I weigh 95 pounds! Like I care if I gain 5 pounds. Heck, I don't care if I gain TEN pounds. Frankly, I could probably use it."
The first 3 months, nothing. I go back for shot #2 and the doc asks me if I'm feeling the weight gain. Me: "Nope." Well, that was the end of that. Practically overnight, I put on 5 lbs. Then 10. then 15. By the third shot, I had put on 30 lbs. from this thing. Suddenly I was fat. Maybe not fat for everyone else, but fat for me. And way too fat for my clothes, which were all tiny--my "fat clothes" were a size 2, and I was now barely able to squeeze into a 4. It was uncomfortable, inconvenient (like realizing at the last minute that you really ARE too big to get into ANYTHING nice that you own, just as you're getting ready for an important event), not very attractive... and was about to become very expensive, because I had no choice but to buy new clothes. Basically, I had very quickly put on the equivalent of pregnancy weight. And my eating habits hadn't changed a bit.
So I stopped taking the shot. That was 4 years ago, and I've taken off almost 20 of the original 30 (as most people know, weight is weight... no matter how it got there, it takes hard work to get rid of it. And I'm essentially lazy). I'd like to take off another 5, but if I don't, that's OK. I don't want or need to be a size 0 again. I'm 44, and a size 2 is fine for a woman of 5'3".
Anyway, the moral of the story is twofold: a) you *can* get fat without stuffing your face with crap 24 hours a day, and b) just because you've always been skinny, don't think you can't get fat.