Letters to the Editor
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The alleged LisaSUG wrote,
"Hmm did I hit a nerve?"
Yep, you lied. And you lie still about being a kid. Ever heard of the Bible, fundy? The Bible's your inerrant word of God.
One of His big ten is, "Thou Shalt not Lie."
God's rather touchy about fornicators too, so since you're lying about having been a fornicator, I wonder how He feels about you.
Another thing: you probably recite, "With God, all things are possible." When is God going to make the Earth bigger to hold all the babies you want for further overpopulation? When? When? Eh? Huh? When?
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re: Lisa
Being lied to makes me angry.
You are lying.
I'm too angry to write an effective response at the moment, but trust me, you would prefer that I not post on your site. If I "reach out" to any girls there, it will be to tell them where the money behind the site comes from, and to advise them that having an abortion is often the best way to avoid ruining many lives - their own, their baby's, the baby's fathers, the grandparents'.
The saddest thing about the site is that I think some of the letters are real. It's hard to imagine someone deliberately forging letters from young girls caught in an instinctive drive to have a baby. There's nothing more holy about that maternal instinct than there is about the sex instinct. They are both instincts, and like all instincts, they are intended to help animals survive and reproduce. Humans supposedly can use their brains to mitigate their instincts. They can choose to have sex at the appropriate time, instead of just having sex whenever they get horny. They can choose to have babies when they can care for them, not just whenever they get a passion for something snuggly and cute.
Almost every letter has a bunch of responses after it calling the girl "brave." There's nothing brave about accidentally getting pregnant. There's nothing brave about dumping your baby on your mother because you aren't legally old enough to be employed. There's really nothing brave about having four children before the age of 18 by a teenaged boy who doesn't want anything to do with them. That's not brave; it's irresponsible and stupid.
Of course, it's really not fair criticizing teenagers for being irresponsible and stupid. Of course they are these things; the decision-making parts of their brains are still developing. That's why adults should give them responsible guidance.
You are one of those adults, "Lisa." But instead of giving responsible guidance, you're inventing lies.
(And, by the way, endometriosis is very common - 1 in 5 women - with many causes; a modern abortion is not one of the possible causes. I'm not sure that ANY part of your story is true, but if you truly are infertile because of endometriosis, then you are not infertile because of an abortion.)
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Lying Lisa answered half my objections
The plausible excuse, that some anti-feminist troll here emailed her to alert her of this article, answers one of the two objections I raised in my response to her first letter.
There are plenty of anti-feminists here. It would only take a single right-wing troll to send the purported email. But the smugness and sanctimony of Lying Lisa's second letter belies the supposed wounded girl behind the name.
I have not been to the site. I don't need to go, don't want to go, won't go. If I went, I might see how old she is pretending to be. Maybe the traumatic abortion was supposed to have occurred a decade or two ago, thus explaining the otherwise-incongruous maturity of tone in the snide second letter. But even if that is the case, the second letter makes a lie out of the first. The tone, maturity, and overall style is markedly different in the second letter. Perhaps it is the true character of the real person behind the fake name showing through. That is what I would guess.
But Lying Lisa ignored the biggest reason her first letter came across as a blatant lie: The inane and unbelievable I didn't know there was any option besides abortion sob story. It will be interesting to see if she (he?) comes back and leaves another letter explaining this particular issue.
Also, I am rather curious why PhD is mentioned, rather than MD. Surely if one wants a doctor's opinion about a medical issue, one would choose to consult a Doctor of Medicine rather than a Doctor of Philosophy. After all, if my PhD in Mathematics were complete, it wouldn't make me any more qualified to comment on sterility vis a vis abortion than I am now without it.
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Former teenage unwed mother here too
Like the other former teenage, unwed mothers that have chimed in, I'm calling total BULLSHIT on this website and this "Lisa" shill.
If you've walked the walk and lived with the consequences, you'd know there is NO WAY you'd romanticize or recommend it as preferable to any young girl. Even if circumstances improve later in life, the ramifications of being an unwed teenage mother are FOREVER - most especially to your CHILD. And if you were REALLY a mother, the pain of what happens to your child throughout life will kill you.
I am DISGUSTED that there are "factions" out there encouraging such sad circumstances, they don't have a fucking clue as to the lifelong consequences of being an unwed teenage mother, for both the woman AND especially the child.
Get back to me when your kid reaches adulthood, like mine, and let's compare notes. Assholes.
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To Anonymous on December 1, 2007 12:00 PM
CLAP, CLAP, CLAP!!!
Barvo, and thank you very much. That was quite the common sentiment I hear from real people.;)