Dear –Anonymous November 29, 2007 03:45 PM

You're buying "love" from the third world.

I'll play devil's advocate here. So is it okay to buy love from the first world? Let us say that a rich Kenyan comes here and wants to have sex with white men and pays for dinner, and buy clothes, and generally goes though a process of offering goods in hopes of services, is that also reprehensible?

You’re kidding right. A rich Kenyan is what, a lower lower-middle class American. The GDP/capita is $1,200 (2006 est.). A rich Kenyan in American Standards would have to be probably less than 0.000005 percentile of the Kenyan economy. So let’s say this hypothetical person exists, comes to America and wants to go out with a white man (in the areas of the country where this is an option). Really how many White Men would be impressed by the offer of Sneakers or dinner that they’d want to sleep with this person (that they weren’t already interested in)? Add to this, that Kenyan could not get laid in her own country, really how sexually alluring do you think the average White American male would find this person.

Oh and just for the record, it gets much worse. Read the the following is from the original Reuters article…

Experts say some thrive on the social status and financial power that comes from taking much poorer, younger lovers.

"This is what is sold to tourists by tourism companies -- a kind of return to a colonial past, where white women are served, serviced, and pampered by black minions," said Nottinghan University's Davidson.

Oh yhea, this is not yucky at all.

Colt

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Annonymous 03:45 PM

I find it difficult to respond to various Annon posts. Can you please tag yourself with some kind of a signifier, if you would like to continue a conversation in the future.

Point taken. That was primarily a speculative point on my part. I am willing to accept the notion that for many sex abuse victims - perhaps even for most - sex work may not be a healthy step. However, I don't believe that there is any one-size-fits-all solution to the problems that plague sex abuse victims. As I have repeatedly stated in several of my recent posts on this thread, everyone must find their own way through their own travails, and I am not willing to entirely rule out the possibility that sex work can be a positive thing for some sex abuse victims.

I tend to think that what sex abuse victims really gravitate toward is not sex work per se, but sexual promiscuity. My thought was that, by giving some structure to sexual activity, and imposing on it a power dynamic that favors the seller and not the buyer, legal sex work could possibly set some boundaries and parameters, and channel that otherwise reckless promiscuity into a safe space.

At any rate, I think for a lot of sex abuse victims, sex work is a matter of fate. The tendency toward sexual promiscuity that drives them into that line of work is present in them whether they like it or not, and will be there until they face that demon. That is not the fault of the brothel, club, or escort service that employs them, nor is it the fault of the customer who pays them - who, as I have previously stated, may be being driven by their own unconscious demons.

I was aware, after I posted it, that the post you referenced and critiqued was a little half baked. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to flesh out my thoughts a little more here. I am also aware that this post may be a little half baked as well, so if you have any further criticism of my thoughts here, please don't hesitate to enlighten me.

women wouldn't be nearly as smug as they are about their present and even more so in the future ability to have everything that matters their own way (also known as being free from oppression).

Or is it that I'm frustrated that as mutually agreeable (if bizarre) as these arrangements seem, you can't really have it the opposite way? (Men, by virtue of often being physically stronger, and in possession of a penis, can abuse and dominate their female "escorts" in a way that these women likely can't.)

Am I reading this right? Are you complaining that women can't abuse and beat up their lovers the way men can? Where the hell does that come from?

I don't know about you, but beatings and abuse are the last thing I want to engage in with a lover. I much prefer sex, thank you.

why are so many people so obsessed with what he says

Or is it that I'm frustrated that as mutually agreeable (if bizarre) as these arrangements seem, you can't really have it the opposite way? (Men, by virtue of often being physically stronger, and in possession of a penis, can abuse and dominate their female "escorts" in a way that these women likely can't.)

This is priceless!!! Gee I wonder if having access to wealth worth severl generations of income allows these Janes to "dominate and abuse" these men. Because as we all know physical strenght is the only form of power. It's not as if security, police, and the most powerful nations in the world would privlage the value of the "delicate" white flower over the coloured poor people in the world. Listen Catherine, you can have continue on with your Young Buck fantasies, but please don't pretend that this is anything other than what it is. If you have don't have a problem with this, then you've also given your approval to all other kinds of prostitution.

I'll play devil's advocate here. So is it okay to buy love from the first world? Let us say that a rich Kenyan comes here and wants to have sex with white men and pays for dinner, and buy clothes, and generally goes though a process of offering goods in hopes of services, is that also reprehensible?