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Friday, November 9, 2007 12:00 AM

Think you're anonymous? Watch out.

An update on the lawsuit filed by two female law students for online anonymous attacks about their looks, their smarts, and graphic comments about what the harassers would like to do to them.

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Friday, November 9, 2007 05:42 PM

Obviously,

it'll be a fine thing if they're fingered, prosecuted, and caged.

Friday, November 9, 2007 05:47 PM

Trolls don't like being named.

It took five years for me to find out the name of my stalker/troll.

He didn't like that much.

Friday, November 9, 2007 06:08 PM

Lots of Industrial Strength Idiots On The Internet

I have been on the internet for a very long time, now. I have had people offer to do unspeakable things to me, to my livestock, to my possessions and to relatives I don't have. I've been insulted and villified and harassed.

What I do is to remove all of my material from that venue and not log into it anymore. Period.

There are lots of other online venues and there is Real Life. Even though I have lots of links on linkedin.com, I suspect if I need a job, I will be talking to people I know personally. Even though I have tried dating sites, I find myself dating people in my social circle, not strangers from online.

I am sad that these women are shit magnets right now. That's a problem with being a young woman. Lots of masturbators get off on harassing them. But, they can save themselves a lot of time and grief by realizing that this is a small section of a large internet and they don't need that, or even the internet, to have successful careers and friendships in the future.

Friday, November 9, 2007 06:15 PM

So rupert_c

How did you do it?

Friday, November 9, 2007 06:20 PM

Heh, she said fingered.

I always wonder more about the hate that feminists admit to spewing than I do about the hate that they spew under an anonymous name.

Friday, November 9, 2007 06:28 PM

It's always a good experience to read Pandagon, I Blame the Patriarchy, Bitch Ph.D, Feministing, Feministe, you know, the blog roll

and read out and out advocacy of violence including shootings and murder.

Or just to read the modern mainstream feminists defend the murder of men (Mary Winkler, Clara Harris) or deny that 20-40% of all domestic violence occurs against men and up to 70% of single person violence is initiated by women.

So I'm not too worried about the anonymous secretive poster....

Friday, November 9, 2007 06:33 PM

Wow, reading Pandagon and Feministe and Feministing during the Duke False Rape Accusation affair

was truly scary. Lots of people organizing to implement an institutionalized violence against men and advocating taking away their right to due process and equal protection as well as any presumption of innocence. And lots of reason for them to fear for their lives.

Even now, in various anti-rape campaigns, women are encouraged to name people as rapists that have never been charged, or were charged and exonerated.

And of course, even now, though the AG has said the students were completely innocent, there are many on the ol blogroll that still say the students were guilty and should be in jail.

Truly scary. This is America?

Friday, November 9, 2007 07:11 PM

Oh really?

Oh really? And from which MRA board did you take those numbers, and what is their basis? Aside, of course, from wishful thinking.

Friday, November 9, 2007 07:28 PM

Green eyed kzin, I was wrong.... I guestimated those numbers, and it's worse than that.

Hello my little green non-sapient eyed kitty cat, Meaow! Perhaps we can get together back at my place and do that thing your kind was genetically engineered for. And don't give that story again about how old you are and not being one of those sorts of kitties.

http://www.patienteducationcenter.org/aspx/HealthELibrary/HealthETopic.aspx?cid=M0907d

Harvard Med School:

Domestic violence: Not Always One Sided

Mention of domestic violence immediately brings to mind an intimidating male batterer. But a 2007 article shows that the problem — also called intimate partner violence — is often more complicated and may involve both women and men as perpetrators.

Nearly 11,000 men and women, a representative sample of the American population ages 18 to 28, participated in a national survey. They were asked the following questions about their most important recent sexual or romantic relationship:

1.

How often in the past year have you threatened your partner with violence, pushed him or her, or thrown something at him or her that could hurt, and how often has your partner done that to you?

2.

How often in the past year have you hit, slapped, or kicked your partner, and how often has your partner done that to you?

3.

If there has been any violence in your relationship, how often has either partner suffered an injury, such as a sprain, bruise, or cut?

Almost 25% of the people surveyed — 28% of women and 19% of men — said there was some violence in their relationship. Women admitted perpetrating more violence (25% versus 11%) as well as being victimized more by violence (19% versus 16%) than men did. According to both men and women, 50% of this violence was reciprocal, that is, involved both parties, and in those cases the woman was more likely to have been the first to strike.

Violence was more frequent when both partners were involved, and so was injury — to either partner. In these relationships, men were more likely than women to inflict injury (29% versus 19%).

When the violence was one-sided, both women and men said that women were the perpetrators about 70% of the time. Men were more likely to be injured in reciprocally violent relationships (25%) than were women when the violence was one-sided (20%).

That means both men and women agreed that men were not more responsible than women for intimate partner violence. The findings cannot be explained by men's being ashamed to admit hitting women, because women agreed with men on this point.

The authors say they have no intention of minimizing the very real problem of serious domestic violence — the classic male batterer. The survey did not cover the use of knives, guns, choking, or burning, and it was not concerned with the kind of situation that can drive a woman to seek shelter outside the home. The view of the authors is that most intimate partner violence should not be equated with severe battering. Domestic disputes that turn physical because of retaliation and escalation do not have the same causes or the same consequences as male battering. Couples counseling is generally regarded as ineffective for batterers, but if the violence is moderate and the injuries are minor, both partners are involved, and they want to stay together, it makes sense for a therapist to work with both of them.

Whitaker DJ, et al. "Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury between Relationships with Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence," American Journal of Public Health (May 2007): Vol. 97, No. 5, pp. 941–47.

Copyright Harvard Health Publications - 2007

I love it when you purr my little green eyed kitty.

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