Letters to the Editor
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To not like Hillary, to think she is the scariest presidential candidate IS NOT MISOGYNY
First, she is the front runner Dem, so it is natural that most Republicans find her scariest.
Second, even amongst Dems, many of us worry about her triangulating and weaseling positions, and that goes to women feminists that have done far more for feminism than you ever have.
IT IS BULLSHIT to just sit back and type into your computer, that dislike of Hillary Clinton is misogyny.
Say that, and then say after me, "I Eryn Loeb acknowledge that it is my over the top characterizations that drives women and men away from feminism"
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I think that Broadsheet is the worst part of Salon. Shoddiest ethics, worse writing, poorest understanding of science.
I think that you girls are here demonstrates the soft bigotry of low expectations.
That I dislike you and and encourage Joan Walsh to bring back Mothers Who Think and thoughtful writers like Cathy Young and Wendy Kaminer is not misogyny.
It may be Eryn, that you just suck.
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It's mathematics that makes Hillary the scariest candidate, not her vajayjay/deeber/hooha/coochie/muff/quim/sheath/poochie/pussy/girly bits/cooter/
There is a clear Democratic front runner, there is no clear Republican front runner.
So if you ask a Dem who is the scariest the responses will be mixed, Giuliani the 9/11, Romney the flipflopper, Thompson the Geriatric, and the immigration bigots.
In this situation, it's clear that the dem front runner will be the scariest, and that's long before you consider her genitals.
Why Eryn are you considering her genitals?
Shouldn't you be examining her actual policies?
Oh yeah, I forgot, the thing feminists do best is judge a person by their genitals and pretend they don't.
Eryn, is your vote for Clinton going to be based more on her pussy or more on her policies?
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masks as predictions
I read an article in 2004 about Presidential candidate Halloween masks: the candidate whose mask sells best, typically wins the election. (I had assumed Kerry would be a shoe-in, given the comedic potential in his face. More proof of election fraud?)
Given the strong penchant forem n to dress in drag for Halloween, I bet Hillary masks will sell quite well this year. Wear them in good health and go TP a certain ranch in Crawford, tricksters!
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Here's Matt Yglesias able to make a similar point to yours but without having to dive into misogny at the first.
http://matthewyglesias.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/10/welcoming_their_hate.php
Note how it's done Eryn, yes, your vertical smile and Hillary's is interesting, and part of the explanation, but it's not the first nor the most important explanation.
Ever hear of the boy who cried wolf? That's what happens when the first issue you go to is misogyny in the face of other explanations.
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Is this What I'm Paying for (and, yeah...I do subscribe)?
I'm sorry, Ms.Loeb.....just because you refer to something as "obvious misogyny" doesn't make it "obvious misogyny."
As far as I can tell, after two years of reading Salon, that sort of writing appears only in Broadsheet.
Why is this?
Sincerely,
David Terry
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Don't diss my Amy
I just want to scoop her up and hug her. But she'd cold cock me and piss on my head.
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uh huh
To those who say that disliking Hillary or thinking she were the scariest candidate does not equal misogyny, I think that would be easier to believe if the Hillary-haters were not so huge in number. I mean, come on. No intelligent human being could give any reason why Sen. Clinton would be scarier than, say, Rudy "sleep deprivation is nothing compared to running for president" Giuliani or Fred "I swear this is not preparation for an acting role" Thompson, or any of the other Republican presidential candidates.
A handful of people who disagree with Clinton's policy decisions in the past few years could get away with saying they thought she was scary. But the same people refusing to say that Giuliani is not a hell of a lot scarier? Now, that's just pathetic.
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Hillary is scarier because she is supposed to be on our side
and she probably will win.
You can fight against Rudy, Mitt, etc. because they are on the other side. No reason to fear them. Beat them.
Hillary calls part of Iran's army a terrorist organization and takes no options off the table. That's scary. Hillary decides the best way to get health care for everyone is to force everyone to buy it from corporations. That's scary. Hillary doesn't know when or if she'll withdraw troops from Iraq. That's scary.
It means that your best hope of changing course by electing a new president is dashed on the ground. With nothing left but some fund raising, campaign ads, and despair.
Hillary is way more scary because "the killer is already in the house" our house. No rallying the team, manning the walls, defending against the invader. Too late. We've already been infiltrated and our leaders again and again throw open the gates to the enemy.
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If not supporting (& gently parodying) Hillary is misogynist
Then is supporting Hillary over Barack (and parodying him via an Obama girl costume) automatically racist as well?
I mean, it's the same basic logic, right?
Is a female liberal who dons a Guilani mask on Halloween obviously a man-hater? Or an Al-Queda sympathizer? Or Anti-Italian?
Also - SNL's Amy Poehler routinely plays Hilary in a savagely yet hilariously parodic, satirical way. Does that mean she is obviously misogynist as well?
This "make fun of Hillary = you're a misogynist pig" line of thinking is as fallacious as:
"Don't Support Bush = Terrorist Sympathizer"
and
"Dare to criticize Israel policy = Anti-Semitic Nazi"
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Are their misogynists out there who hate/mock Ms. Clinton solely because she is a woman? Sure.
Does that justify making asinine, knee-jerk reflexive generalizations about anyone who dares to poke fun at a political figure (regardless of gender)? Hell no.
Cheers,
Lonewolfy
(Colbert in '08)
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"their" = "there"
sorry for the typo
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This video makes it clear
Why people dislike Clinton, how that is not misogyny, and why Eryn Loeb and Broadsheet Feminism sucks.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/11/2/12255/5332
Daily Kos: The politics of parsing