Letters to the Editor
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Larsen, is it your impression that
men [could] have sex with women on the subway, with the women looking perhaps a little uncomfortable as if maybe they should protest, but not moving or making eye contact or otherwise acknowledging that a guy standing behind them is putting his penis in them and another guy is filming it.
Seems like obvious bullshit to me, but if you think this's in the range of possibilities, and in sufficient frequency to make up a porn film, please speak up.
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Are you blind or just selectively quoting?
Seriously. The very next sentence in the OP is
"Even if the videos are faked, they are presented as reality, and tell a truth about people's expectations."
The poster clearly wasn't saying that s/he really thought this japanese porn was actual footage of real rapes happening, just that it's indicative of a culture that considers subway rape an acceptable subject for porn. And, next time, RTFP.
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Did you never learn how to read?
"Even if the videos are faked, they are presented as reality, and tell a truth about people's expectations."
She states the videos are real and present reality. Then she caveats that and makes the claim they are presented as reality and tell some sort of truth.
Is the porn you watch presented as reality or fantasy? Do you believe the porn you watch tells a truth about your expectations?
She went way too far, slurred a culture, backed off a bit, went back again and did all of this without a shred of evidence.
It's Allie's version of the snuff film myth.
http://www.snopes.com/horrors/madmen/snuff.asp
It's bullshit, and she's a liar.
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Re: learning to read
Is the porn you watch presented as reality or fantasy? Do you believe the porn you watch tells a truth about your expectations?
Obviously that depends on the particular porn. Some porn pretends to be "real" (usually of the pick-up-a-girl-on-the-street variety) but actually stars paid actors and actresses. Other porn is obviously intended to be fantasy.
I haven't seen the Japanese subway porn in question (and I suspect neither have you), so I have no idea how it's presented.
But yes, I do think the pornography a culture produces (like all media) has something to say about the values of that culture. I don't see why that's a radical concept.
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calling bullshit
hey Anonymous, what's your opinion on men groping women in the japanese subway system? Or is it that this phenomenon is perfectly ok with you and all you care about is attacking someone about an irrelevant point in your attempt at deflecting discussion from the topic? Why do you want to deflect the discussion from the topic of men groping women in the subway?
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Sorry, I posted this letter on the wrong thread last night!
To Allie from fetboy's wife.
電車の中で痴漢に遭うのは、そう珍しい事ではありません。朝夕のラッシュアワーともなれば、隣の人とべったりくっつき合って電車に乗るのが普通です。30分以上も身動きの取れないそんな状況の中で、ムラムラきてしまう男性は理性を押さえきれずについ出来心で目の前の女性に触ってしまうのでしょう。
私も何度か経験あります。思い出すだけで気分を害し、何も出来なかった自分にも腹が立って仕方ありませんが、何せ一瞬の出来事ですし、ましてどの人が犯人なのか分からないのです。運良く捕まえる事が出来ても、あまり警察沙汰になる事はありません。なので犯人も「犯罪を犯している」という認識はほとんど無に等しく、むしろそのスリル感を楽しんでいるところがあります。
でも数年前からようやく女性専用の車両が確保され、むさ苦しいおじさま達と肌をふれあう事もなく、通勤できるようになりました。
To Anonymous on October 30, 2007 06:53 AM 11:01 PM, from fetboy.
My wife is speaking for herself.
And yes, the Japanese AV videos Allie described do exist, but I am not going to provide links to them.
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No one's deflecting anything.
I thinking groping women on subways is disgusting and illegal and should be stopped.
But there's an enormous difference between saying women are being groped and saying women are being raped and that no men or women are making any fuss about that.
We have enough over the top bullshit in our society.
Democrats hate America.
Democrats are traitors.
There is no such thing as a false accusation.
False accusations are a trivial and ignorable problem.
Men don't want custody, they only want to get even with their ex. Men don't want custody, they just don't want to pay child support.
On and on.
Then Allie goes and says there are these train rape videos, but no one even mentions anything like that on google.
So before this becomes a Broadstreet urban legend, let's have some citations that shows these videos are common, and are presented as real and not as fantasy, and that they change peoples expectations.
Otherwise, like PetBoy and his imaginary friend, it's all just nonsense no one should take seriously.
And my dear, now you know how I feel about groping on trains. How do you feel about false allegations of rape and false allegations of child abuse and false allegations of domestic violence?
How do you feel about Carol Lloyd being able to defame people and pretend she never did or that they never asked for her to clarify or retract?