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Where should schools draw the line between innocent affection and excessive public displays?
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  • What the **** Is Wrong With Our Once Great Nation?!@?

    As for the boy and the bra strap? He was accused of sexual harassment, suspended for two days and temporarily assigned to a different school.

    This one in particular chafes me. I have on occasion offered such innocent friendly advice only to be scorned like I was the devil.

    So sorry. I'll turn myself inside out to become an inconsiderate asshole all the time from now on. Is it either that or else be accused of being 'friendly'???

    The mind boggles at how liberalism and feminism has screwed this country so totally over.

  • You can't legislate morality...

    Or can you? I guess you can when you discover that by removing all restraint from personal behavior (don't YOU tell ME how to live!), you create a barbaric society that must be constricted by rule of law. You think the new way is better than the old way? Be careful what you wish for. As has now been proven time and time again, the law is far more harsh and less flexible than a little public guilt and condemnation. Like it or not, it is true.

  • What interests me MORE

    Is why a 7-year old is wearing a bra? I was nowhere near wearing a bra at 7. The early developers in my class (mid 70's) started wearing bras at 10 or 11, and yeah, they kind of were freaks in school (sorry, it's true). Does she really NEED the bra (which seems like a problem) or is it a matter of fashion (also a problem, but less so)?

  • Bra straps ...

    Is it possible the boy's comment about the bra strap was an attempt (albeit a misguided one perhaps) to save the girl some embarrassment about her clothes? Thats the first thing I thought of ... in the mind of a 7 year old, a bra would be underwear, which is supposed to be under your clothes, and not visible. I couldn't help wondering if he thought she didn't realize everyone could see through her shirt. Maybe it was a "boys will be boys" case of taunting, but my first thought was more along the lines of "Pssst, your fly is down ..."

  • Reading stories like this can be a 'brawl'...a bra? no comment. who wears them? not me. 'um troublesome and scratch and make a uncomfortable day? I hope not.

    I gnawing to think out loud.

    It's easy to get in trouble.

  • It's snowing down south

    Psst - Brightstar. Your slip is showing.

  • Shocking

    What??? Social engineering has unintended consequences? I'm shocked, just shocked.

    The original sin of liberalism is the idea that everything - thoughts and speech as well as behavior - should be controlled in order to make the world perfect for everyone. The problem is that any such centralized control of human beings has massive, MASSIVE negative consequences.

    Let's say it as it is: tagging four year olds as sexual deviants because they hug their teachers (this has happened!) is evil. Celebrating people that assault others because of the color of their skin is wrong (this happened!) Railroading innocents into the penitentiary for political gain is an evil so monstrous that it makes one hope that eternal damnation is a reality.

    Or you could just blame Bush.

  • Yikes!

    “I have on occasion offered such innocent friendly advice only to be scorned like I was the devil.”

    From a 7 year old boy with a developing understanding of personal boundaries it could have been an innocent observation. He should have been corrected by his teacher (it’s very rude – especially if he announced it in front of the whole class) and that should have been the end of it. If there was some sort of dress code breach that’s for the teacher to talk to the girl’s parents about.

    From a grown man it’s at best icky and at worst it might be sexual harassment. It’s sure not friendly and if you think it is I imagine you’re in hot water a lot. I mean come on – if someone (man or woman) walked up to you at work and randomly corrected your personal dress would you really thank them and strike up a friendly conversation? Me – I’d tell you where to stick your fashion advice.

    And when I was 7 I wore a training bra – it was basically just a half tank top (with a little rosette or ribbon in the center of the neckline) for modesty sake and offered no support.

  • Exhibit A

    I was about to post a comment on a certain irony to all of this, but the previous "anonymous" gives me a perfect example of it in practice.

    The irony is that these type of draconian reactions to pda's or anything remotely sexually suggestive are the product of a creeping religious fundamentalism pushing it's puritanical values on our society and our schools. It is no surprise the "bra strap" incident arose out of Dallas, where religious fundamentalists have dominated local school boards for years.

    However, once, the extremes of this policy are exposed, it is liberals and their political correctness or overzealous prosecution of harassment that get the blame. And people buy into.

    Thus allowing the religious fundamentalists to continue about their business unnoticed.

  • Oops, I thought women were decent human beings.

    From a grown man it’s at best icky and at worst it might be sexual harassment. It’s sure not friendly and if you think it is I imagine you’re in hot water a lot. I mean come on – if someone (man or woman) walked up to you at work and randomly corrected your personal dress would you really thank them and strike up a friendly conversation? Me – I’d tell you where to stick your fashion advice.

    I guess it is just another arena where I give women more credit than they deserve.

    I would be grateful if someone told me my fly was open, even if she was female.

    I keep thinking there is less rancor between the sexes than there is. Time to reconsider my stance yet again-- or better yet, just avoid all contact with women altogether.

    God help me, how the fuck did I end up on this Godforsaken planet.

  • Bra?

    They sell bras for 7 year olds?

    What are they - Bratz Bras?

    I don't know about the other issue, the thing that seems bizarre to me is that a girl of 7 is wearing a bra. Females have a lifetime of bra wearing - what a pity that childhood can't be bra free.

    Then again - children have been sexualized in this country and girls especially. I had a 7 year old niece tell me that "boys don't like fat girls" and worry about getting "fat"

    How do we get this destructive genie back in the bottle?