With a 23 year old woman is no big deal. It doesn't end lives or lead to a career writing Oprah-recommended books. That's why. The fact that you're the one who's outraged says more about you.

I've been reading about this cultural double standard, pro and con, for-about-ever. South Park did it best, with the pre-school age Ike as the junior Lothario. Absurd and awesome.

You applaud the denial of state funds to shelters for any male over 12.

You believe in patriarchal oppression of women and girls. The victims stop there.

You dismiss the data describing the "boy crisis" in our schools.

You applaud "positive discrimination" against boys as a result of Title IX.

It's all part of the same mindset in matriarchal America.

I really don't know about this one. All you can do is judge by your own experience. I think that if I had been 16 or 17 or 18, it wouldn't have been damaging. (And there certainly were a couple of my teachers that crossed the old fantasy telescreen!) Maybe even 15. But under that, well it is just too creepy, and I can certainly see how it would leave you confused.

It may be sexist and so on, but I really do think boys and girls, particularly as teens, really are quite different, with much different vulnerabilities and risk factors.

You say yourself that most victims of this adult female on minor male abuse don't view themnselves as victims, that it takes decades if at all for awareness of the damage done to surface. You admit that there is almost NO societal recognition of these crimes. NO support for male victims to come forward and report what happened.

Given all this, how in the world can you consider reported incidents of the crime- the only possible support for the assertion that most perps are male-- how in the blessed world can you consider those reports an accurate representation of these crimes?

Certainly female victims have a hard row to hoe as well. None of this is easy. But there are whole institutions, rape crisis centers and abuse prevention programs designed to address their needs. The social support for reporting and healing is there, if the victim has the courage to reach out for it. Boy victims of women don't have those resources, for the most part.

but of thinking of the women as perpetrators.

Many boys turn out well despite having an older women come on to them, the same can be said of many young girls who have an older man seduce them.

The difference is, we treat the male perps very harshly. We do not treat the female perps as harshly, particularly if she is physically attractive.

Will it work itself out in the end? If it were up to feminists, any woman seducing a boy is OK, but any man seducing a girl is not. Since feminists have wrested or been granted control of the dialog and the social tenor of most of America, this does not bode well.

Most of the calls from women made to domestic violence services every year come not from women in need of protection, but from women who are actively aggressing against their male partners. As such, the domestic violence figures reflect mostly the amount of violence being directed at men

No-one actually knows the true figures for domestic violence. The official figures are virtually meaningless in that they derive mostly from incidents that would paint us all as 'domestically violent'.

The legal reality, however, is that domestic violence is now largely defined by the woman's attitude to whatever she claims to be experiencing at the time. And the problem with this - apart from the sheer unfairness of it all from the point of view of the man - is that her attitude is not something that is objectively definable, and neither is it 'fixed' - in the sense that a woman's attitudes can change and fluctuate almost as much as the wind. Indeed, in the USA, some 20 million women experience clinically severe emotional disturbances every single month through PMS, and about 5 million have significant personality disorders.

Read about it on Glenn Sacks' blog

Mom who has child by teen gets probation

By Joe Elias

The Patriot-News, 8/22/07

NEW BLOOMFIELD — A 24-year-old woman who gave birth to a 14-year-old boy's child won't go to jail so that she can take care of the newborn, a Perry County judge ruled Tuesday.

Angela Nicole Rudy of the 600 block of Lewisberry Road, Fairview Twp., York County, received probation and a suspended sentence of 3 to 18 months in prison.

The 14-year-old's mother, however, said that's a double standard.

"If she was a man, she would already be in prison," the mother said. "She's only out because she's a woman. A criminal should not be able to hide behind the fact that they have a child."

The teen's mother is not being identified to protect the identity of her son. The Patriot-News does not identify sex-assault victims.

The teen's mother compared the case to that of her 23-year-old son, who is serving a 2 1/2- to 4 1/2-year state prison sentence for his second statutory sexual-assault offense. The offenses occurred in Perry and York counties. A 15-year-old York County girl gave birth to his child in late 2006, court records said.

"I don't see a difference," the mother said. "The issue is the crime, not who will be watching the child."

Rudy gave birth to a boy in April.

"I'm not going to break the bond between a parent and an infant," Perry County Judge Kathy A. Morrow said. "That only causes more problems."

Instead, Morrow sentenced Rudy to 2 years of probation, which is within the state guidelines for the crime to which Rudy pleaded guilty in July: one count of statutory sexual assault.

Morrow had considered sending Rudy to a halfway house in Mifflin or Dauphin county, where she could work during the day and stay with the child at night. Probation officials said they couldn't get Rudy into either facility.

District Attorney Charles Chenot said he was disappointed in the judge's decision. "I certainly feel that some sort of incarceration was in order," he said.

Rudy's lawyer, Shaubot C. Walz, the county's public defender, said the sentence was what he requested.

Morrow also ordered Rudy to have no contact with the victim except to exchange custody of the baby. She also ordered drug and alcohol counseling.

The baby's father, who was not in court, has told The Patriot-News he does not believe Rudy should be imprisoned for their sexual relationship, saying it was consensual.

State law says that someone younger than 16 cannot consent to sex with someone more than four years older.

"He was a child, and you took advantage of him," Morrow told Rudy.

Tina Nixon, executive director of the YWCA of Greater Harrisburg, said as a general rule, boys are less likely to report any type of sexual assault, especially when they don't consider themselves victims.

"In a case like this, boys don't understand it's illegal," she said.

In 2006, the YWCA's crisis hot line handled 709 calls about sexual assaults, and just 10 were from boys, Nixon said.

In July 2006, Rudy drove the teen, who is a Perry County resident and a family friend, to a pull-off along Route 274 in Spring Twp. near West Perry High School. They had sex in the vehicle, court records state.

Rudy told police she was drunk at the time, records state. The teen's mother reported Rudy to the police after learning Rudy was pregnant.