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Friday, October 12, 2007 12:00 AM

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Friday, October 12, 2007 06:04 PM

Please don't tell me women wear lipstick because of the Patriarchy

Jebus, if I could find the chick that invented lipstick.... That stuff is horrible gross.

Just let us see your p*y. No need for red greasepaint on your lips to remind us of that.

Yuck!

Friday, October 12, 2007 06:16 PM

robbery?

That logic is so tortured I need to stand on my head to look at it. If prostitution is illegal, how could one be "robbed" of the service? If someone steals my illegal (hypothetical, eavesdropping Justice Depratment! Ther's no actual weed here!) weed, I can't file a theft report.

If the prostitute had been raped at gunpoint when she was "off the clock" so to speak, would the case still have been thrown out? Is a prostitute always for sale, and therefore not entitled to say "no" to any potential client?

Even if one can buy that explanation (and swallow their bile while doing so), 3 of the 4 guys who raped her (after the conensual1st client) did not have a "verbal contract" with her. If Friend #1 of Original John was a thief, weren't Friends 2, 3 and 4 still rapists?

Well, that judge sure made her point. Prostitutes don't deserve the protection of the law. I wonder if that applies to all criminals? Prison could get a whole lot more interesting if we just admit we tell wrong-doers "You're screwed from here on out."

Friday, October 12, 2007 06:32 PM

Seems outrageous to me, but so does declaring it rape if the partner doesn't pull out within 30 seconds of the woman saying no

Lots of stuff that women declare as rape don't seem like rape to me.

Juliebird, I am warning you, don't make me pull out the Biting Beaver Rape Checklist again.

So given how fux0r3d the law is on both sides, but seeing as how the Broadsheet Feminists (TM) only advocate for one gender, all I can say, is "Tsk, tsk, too bad, so sad."

If you want peace Juliebird, work for justice.

Friday, October 12, 2007 06:38 PM

Give tobacco a rest, already

It's a legal product. If you think it shouldn't be, lobby Congress to ban it. (Good luck with that one.) But for now, it's legal, and legal to advertise. Is it bad for you? Of course. So is fast food. So are SUV's, which probably represent more of a public health threat than cigarettes at this point. So are absurd clothes that require starvation and surgery to wear, and which magazines like the ones mentioned push like heroin. Singling out one product as so Eeevil that magazines should refuse to carry ads for it is absurd.

Friday, October 12, 2007 06:44 PM

Women are not the only definers of rape, Anonymous

There are plenty of men who would think that 30 seconds of unwanted sex was a long time. Long enough to pass consensual in the rear-view mirror. And there are probably women who would disagree. Don't make rape a woman thing.

Friday, October 12, 2007 06:44 PM

Anonymous 6:32

Are you saying that you don't believe prostitutes can be raped?

Friday, October 12, 2007 07:14 PM

No, of course I think prostitutes can be raped.

Don't be stupid. Rape is a horrible vicious crime that should be prosecuted to the max.

I just don't give a shit. Not in a world where Broadsheet Feminists(TM) and their ilk are still demanding that the Duke Students were rapists that should be punished. Not in a world where Broadsheet Feminists(TM) and their ilk claim that a woman engaging in consensual but drunken sex can declare that as rape the next day. Not when Broadsheet Feminists(TM) and their blogroll are claiming that Father's Rights Activists are wifebeaters, and pedophiles, and rapists. (http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/)

When Broadsheet Feminists refuse to acknowledge the false allegations of rape, the cases of gray rape, the false allegations of domestic violence, well, all I can say is this woman wax fux0red by the system Broadsheet Feminists(TM) defend. So what? Who cares? She got scr3w3d. So have we all.

Live's a bitch and then you die. And the Broadsheet Feminists(TM).... They're the bitches.

Friday, October 12, 2007 07:37 PM

What's a broadsheet feminist, Anonymous?

It sounds like a broadsheet feminist is just the antithesis of yourself. Which I'm sure is very gratifying and reassuring for your own importance, but I don't know any people, here or in real life, who would affirm the laundry list of opinions broadsheet feminists supposedly stand for. And even if someone did, it doesn't change the fact that the prostitute was raped.

Friday, October 12, 2007 07:39 PM

Hooray!

Three posts to completly trollify the blog tonight.

Well done, anonymous.

Now, please let the adults talk?

Friday, October 12, 2007 07:45 PM

Seriously Joan Walsh, can you read Amanda Marcotte's almost libelous misrepresentations of Glenn Sacks and tell me why you allow her to be blogrolled and published in your magazine?

Amanda Marcotte may think it's all in good fun and fair game to misrepresent Glenn Sacks so egregiously, but is that what you think Joan Walsh? Page Rockwell?

This is the sort of hypocrisy from Broadsheet Feminists(TM) that young women and the rest of society detect and has them fleeing the label of feminism.

You folks, by not shining a light on your own bullshit and instead defending it, are your own worst enemy.

An interview with Glenn Sacks:

http://pajamasmedia.com/2007/10/ask_dr_helen_5.php

Amanda Marcotte's Representation of it:

http://pandagon.blogsome.com/2007/10/08/6148/

Glenn Sacks' response:

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1255

http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=1257

It's bullshit like Amanda's and your standing silent that caused Nobel Prize winner Doris Lessing to say I find myself increasingly shocked at the unthinking and automatic rubbishing of men which is now so part of our culture that it is hardly even noticed," the 81-year-old Persian-born writer said yesterday.

"Great things have been achieved through feminism. We now have pretty much equality at least on the pay and opportunities front, though almost nothing has been done on child care, the real liberation.

"We have many wonderful, clever, powerful women everywhere, but what is happening to men? Why did this have to be at the cost of men?

It has become a kind of religion that you can't criticise because then you become a traitor to the great cause, which I am not.

"It is time we began to ask who are these women who continually rubbish men. The most stupid, ill-educated and nasty woman can rubbish the nicest, kindest and most intelligent man and no one protests.

"Men seem to be so cowed that they can't fight back, and it is time they did."

Lessing claimed that much of the "great energy" whipped up by feminism had "been lost in hot air and fine words when we should have been concentrating on changing laws.

Friday, October 12, 2007 07:45 PM

So, then, cigarette ads are only bad...

...if they target girls or women? Oh, OK, thanks for clearing that up.

But seriously, that judge is hateful. How any reasonable person could dismiss rape charges under those circumstances is beyond me. She was just being judgmental about the woman's line of work (probably the fact that she's a young single mother didn't help). Makes me think of the judge in Virginia who sued the dry cleaners for like $60 million because they lost his precious pair of pants. I guess it just goes to show that the bench is filled with a fair share of assholes and fools, just like every other profession.

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