Letters to the Editor
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re: You missed the point completely
Feeling as if you have the right to breastfeed wherever you like is of a piece with the same mentality that gives us people who bring their double-wide strollers into crowded stores on Saturday, park them in the middle of the aisle and browse freely while people struggle to get by them.
No, it is not. The person with the stroller is inconveniencing other people. The mother who is breastfeeding is not.
If someone's action has no impact on you, then you have no right to complain.
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This is stupid
Bill's just wrong on every level of his argument. I might buy the whole "intimate act" argument if it weren't an act that has to be done every goddamn hour. He's basically demanding mothers not leave the house for a year straight. Does he need to masturbate every hour?
And applebees needs to mind its own business. If they felt she wasn't being discrete enough, she probably just isn't that experienced at breastfeeding yet, but again, so what?
And to people who think lactivists are just being annoying, they have to be. People simply don't bother to think and talk about issues until you do something controversial. No civil rights progress has ever been made non controversially, or else the matter at hand wouldn't be an issue in the first place.
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Calling all Hooters waitresses--Breast Feed Bill Maher!
I posted earlier without having seen Maher's commentary. I'll say this--fair enough that America is full of narcissists. But don't we feed them on the sour breast-milk of human ugliness?
I wish Bill Maher would see his own hypocrisy. I wish he would see his own narcissim. I wish he would see his own hatefulness and have some idea of how it looks to the people he's lambasting--and even the people he's supposedly supporting. But again, since he doesn't give a shit about other people, being the narcisisstic, hateful, hypcrite that he is, he never will. Besides he makes good money at being an asshole, doesn't he?
Isn't that one of the many things wrong with our modern, uber- techo-connected-cooler-than-thou culture?
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Please be a little more concise.
Leftychris, correct me if I'm wrong but the meat of your argument is that straight men form sexual feelings for women, and gay men form sexual feelings for men?
I believe I said the same thing you said, but with far fewer words.
Then you went a little bit further to justify viewing breastfeeding mothers as sexual objects.
I'm straight, I love sex with women, but I don't see breastfeeding women as sexual objects. But I do recognize that a lot of men do, but do you realize that these men are, in addition to sexualizing breastfeeding mothers, forming a fetish of them? A fetish (the first part of my name) isn't a bad thing, as long as you realize that a woman is still a woman, and that a breast is still an organ designed (by either god(dess) or nature) to feed offspring (and not necessarily your own, as the custom is in a lot of nations outside of the United States). If you have a breastfeeding mother fetish, that's OK, but be mindful of the fact that you can be polite and respectful towards something that turns you on. A woman's hands turn me on, but I am not going to insist that all women go around all the time wearing gloves, because that would be impractical (and personally I would rather they not wear gloves).
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Rich
Several posters on this tread entertain ideas that nursing moms do so in public for attention, and to purposely ruin the posters' day. Certain posters think they can and should be the arbitor of what is and is not discreet nursing in public. At least one poster equated nursing in public to defecating in stranger's lap, while several others equated nursing an infant with performing a sex act. Most chillingly, at least one poster suggested that a manager's desire to not upset one patron gives him the right to violate the legal rights of another patron.
And *I'm* the one with paranoid delusions!?
I laughed so hard (cow's) milk came out my nose. Y'all are too funny.
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No one did this, "Most chillingly, at least one poster suggested that a manager's desire to not upset one patron gives him the right to violate the legal rights of another patron." which is why we think you need to have your meds checked
I think you're writing about a comment of mine. But having a restaurant manager speak to a customer violates no ones rights.
The manager never asked her to stop, or to change tables, or threatened to kick her out of the restaurant.
When two people talk to each other, that's known as speech. Dialog. Negotiation. Speech is encouraged and protected in this country (America that is, though I am not sure what dictatorship you find yourself in.)
Discretion is the better part of valor.
The manager was offering the mother the opportunity to be valiant.
You can say the manager was a jerk and insensitive, but there was nothing chilling in my comment or in the manager's behavior. And when you overreach like that you do an injustice to the brave women and men that fought and gave their lives to make free speech possible.
Shame on you.
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@anonymous
"I think you're writing about a comment of mine."
No, I'm referencing a comment by bkluebadger on p. 30.
Narcissist.
In need of meds.
Ooh! ad hominum attackes are fun!
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Lactivist?
What a trendy sounding title. Lactivist. Wow, that's cute. I guess as an environmentally challenged OHV rider, that makes me a DirtBiketivist? I'm sorry but I just don't think I can take someone who mixes "lactation" and "activist" into one word seriously. Personally I do believe this issue has more to do with women being told they CAN'T breastfeed wide open than for any other reason. I'm amazed at the vitriol that comes out of both sides. I was strictly bottle fed formula when I was a baby (mostly because I refused to breast feed) and therefore I guess my opinion in the matter is null. Still, I do recognize that boobs do serve a grander purpose than filling those "Girls Gone Wild" videos advertised on late night teevee. I also realize that I would rather not catch my eyes accidently sweeping across a huge, pale, veiny breast with a severely discolored and enflamed areola sipping a venti mocha at Starbucks while I'm walking through the mall. I can appreciate the pride a woman feels in her offspring but I can also appreciate the perspective of even a little traditional social modesty in this area.