Yikes. I guess they aren't kidding. I wonder if any of these CDDers recognize how kinky this is. Like my father used to say, sometimes the far right and the far left are SO far that they wrap around and meet.

Wow, I felt like I was reading Penthouse Forum, especially the first one where she had to bend over the bed!

Kinky!

I haven't gone through the CDD website, but from your description, it doesn't sound to me like roleplaying or a bit of consensual BDSM. It sounds to me a little like spousal abuse. Wait, it sounds exactly like spousal abuse. No system of belief legitimates that kind of treatment.

Some might say that the wife's consent to "maintenance spanking" (ughhhh) would indicate that it's okay: two consenting adults etc. I don't buy it. Abusers always have a reason for their abuse.

And when he gets to heaven I hope he finds that god is a big muscle leather daddy who rams his fist up to his divine elbow up the good husband's ass.

Utimately, I hold these screwy women completely responsible for their tortured, sad, pathetic, abused little lives.

Christianity has a strange way of being the pathway to the most outlandishly degrading and inhuman actions.

I've said it before, and I'll say it a gain, somewhere right now Jesus is shaking his head saying, "Elvis, what did we ever do to deserve this?!"

I'd like to hear the "Three H's" husband's perspective -- "I have often found it necessary to beat my wife when she gets sick. It's like they say, 'the body is a temple which you have to hit sometimes.'"

I am a practicing Catholic (though not a perfect one)and I just got married in the Catholic Church. My fiance and I had to go through marriage preparation ("pre-Cana"). The priest who taught our class has 2 masters degrees in theology and he went painstakingly into scripture to show us what God intends marriage to be. He pointed out that in the scene after Adam and Eve bite the apple, God tells them how much worse their lives are going to be than before when they were in Eden. One thing he says to Eve is "[your husband] shall rule over you". The priest was at great pains to point out that this is a description of a FALLEN state of being, what the human condition is when we don't have redemption. It is a description, not a prescription (and it is true almost everywhere in the world that men dominate women to a greater or lesser degree). More importantly, as Christians, who believe that Christ came and redeemed us, we should no longer be in that fallen state. He pointed us to the book of Hosea where God foreshadows the time after redemption/reconciliation and the wife (paraphrasing) "no longer shall call her husband master, but shall call him husband". Theologically, this priest explained, Christians should be living as though God's kingdom had come and should be a living example of it. So, husbands and wives should be completely equal partners.

I thought this was brilliant and a great answer to these CDD types (not that I knew such a thing existed until now; scary!).

not for us to judge

That's interesting, considering how often Broadsheet writers pronounce judgment on any number of social and/or religious oddities. Suddenly you get all ladylike just because...what? It's "private"? It's possibly sexual? It's connected to religion? Broadsheet has never stinted on judging such matters before. What's with the Miss Manners act now?

Not that I have any objections to judging such things as deeply creepy. (Apparently some of us are more led to concern than others by husbands beating wives with implements for supposed "infractions".) I won't say it's the wives' fault, as the poster above did, because DUDE. It's the husband wielding the paddle and doing the damage. Is anybody going to bring up the hoary old chestnut about the woman "making" the man do it?

Personally, I've never held with using religion as an excuse for violence of any kind. Especially Christianity, whose leader and godhead went around constantly talking about "turning the other cheek", "forgiving trespasses", and generally trying to be better to others than they are to oneself. But then, I have noticed how many of these obsessive Jesus fans tend to ignore most of what he said, preferring to treat him as a hood ornament while they base their lives on the far more punitive voices in their canon. By their fruits shall ye know them, and all that.

Wow. That's astounding stuff. These people put "Da Mental" in "Fundamentalism." Is there anything that violence and abuse won't fix, in their theology? There's a deep authoritarian yearning in these people, with accompanying sadomasochistic overtones thrown in. Insight into the Christian fascist household, I guess. Shudder.

Scarily enough, these American Taliban are having children, abusing them into the next generation of authoritarians, and both Mother and Father are complicit in this. Let's hope that they are less numerous with each generation.

I found this article so compelling that I immediately commanded my lovely wife to go out in the yard and cut herself a switch so that we could get down to some serious maintenance spanking post haste… perhaps I should have been clearer in my instruction… as it is, I’m typing this standing up.

I work for the military in Germany. A few months ago, a friend saw this site on one of our most right-wing, holy-roller officer's computer. We howled with laughter... and then started wondering how many OTHERS on base are also doing this!

I think the American public isn't yet aware of how the fundies have taken over the military. A LOT of American officers are proselytizing members of "Officers' Christian Fellowship," which posts articles like this gem, "Who Can Find an Excellent Military Wife": http://ocf.gospelcom.net/pubs/who_can_find.php .

Needless to say, it's not easy to be a civilian woman working for these guys, who see the only proper role of women to be home-schooling, churchgoing, obedient hausfraus! (Recently, both of the gay guys working where I do quit because Rumsfeld abolished almost all civil service protections with his atrocious "National Security Personnel System," which allows management - including all the holy rollers in uniform - to include their opinion of your PERSONAL LIFE in your yearly evaluation. They were the canaries in the mine - everyone else with a brain is job-hunting, as well.)

While on the subject of crazy holy rollers in uniform, check out the Veterans for Common Sense site, where they post the Department of Defense Inspector General's Report on illegal proselytizing and evangelizing at the highest levels of the uniformed services. Somehow I bet these guys are spankers, too. http://www.veteransforcommonsense.org/articleid/8177

Sorry for having to be anonymous but it's hard enough for a woman to work for DoD already!