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The new defense against date-rape drugs. Ingenious or just plain dumb?
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  • There's a plus side.

    If your date suddenly procures a lid for her vodka tonic, you're giving off irreparably creepy vibes. Save yourself the embarrassment and end the evening right there, champ.

  • Let's PLEASE not forget

    Alcohol can act as a date rape drug even if you don't add anything that wasn't in the drink recipe to begin with.

  • brilliant!

    Worrying about date-rape drugs isn't really an issue for me with the company I keep in bars, but it would be nice to have a little drink cover just so I don't spill the damned thing getting across a crowded room to a table.

    Seriously--think how many drunken bar fights that started with a spilled drink could be avoided, too!

  • What about beer?

    The best way to avoid getting dosed with roofies is to order a bottled beer and keep your thumb on the opening of the beer. The second best way is to enjoy cocktails with friends, not with a crowd of brawling frat boys on booty patrol.

    It seems a clever idea for girls who are paranoid, don't drink bottled beer, and who don't pick their drinking companions wisely.

  • Brilliant idea...

    Would the lids keep me from spilling? Because I tend to slosh my martinis when I'm sloshed...

  • A condom for your cock-tail ?

    But seriously - to the person who claims that alcohol is a 'date rape drug', perhaps you have a problem with the concept of choice? It's up to the individual to decide how much they want to drink. That's rather different than imbibing a drug unknowingly, wouldn't you think? Let's at least try and treat women like grown-ups.

  • Announcing to the world that you're "made out of gold and can't be sold" and so fucking hotttttt that someone might commit a felony

    just to fuck your comatose body --- oh yeah -- it's the hot accessory for the "legend in their own mind" club ...

    as well as the ever-popular self-righterous legs-tightly-crossed you-ain't-getting-in-here-with-that-thing ....

    both groups having a lot in common -- mostly that they primarily live in their imaginations

  • apoggiatura

    But seriously - to the person who claims that alcohol is a 'date rape drug', perhaps you have a problem with the concept of choice?

    Did I say that? No, you did.

    You're making up all kinds of stuff I didn't day. And pretending I have points of view I don't even have.

    There's nothing I said that even needs to be argued with.

    It's just a fact about alcohol. How can you argue with a fact?

  • If You See a Father Holding His Child's Hand, Call the Cops!

    http://glennsacks.com/blog/?p=857

    If You See a Father Holding His Child's Hand, Call the Cops!

    If dad goes for a walk with his daughter and holds her hand, apparently Virginia Department of Health officials wants you to pick up the phone and destroy his life by reporting him as a possible sexual abuser. I would've thought this article about this campaign was from the Onion or some satirical publication, but it's for real.

    One of the most beautiful pictures I've ever seen is a picture of my father walking on the beach near sunset holding my daughter's little hand. The picture above of a man holding a child's hand--a touching little scene--is actually supposed to make us think he's sexually abusing the child. Unbelievable.

    From Campaign advocates recognizing, reporting suspected abuse (Norfolk Virginian-Pilot, 6/21/07):

    http://content.hamptonroads.com/story.cfm?story=127074&ran=222513

    "For years, campaigns to stop child sexual crimes have focused on encouraging children to speak up about abuse.

    "State health officials are trying a new tactic. The latest push, at least in Hampton Roads, is to educate adults on how to spot - and stop - sexual offenders.

    "The 'Stop It Now' campaign - just launched locally - will urge people to call a help line if they see an adult whom they suspect of having a sexual relationship with a child.

    "Billboards and posters show an adult hand holding a child's hand, with the words: 'It doesn't feel right when I see them together.'

    "A national help line number is listed, and through it callers can get advice about what to do.

    "Rebecca Odor, who directs the sexual and domestic violence prevention division for the state Department of Health, said officials hope to reach people who might feel uncomfortable reporting a relative or acquaintance to law enforcers.

    "'We want to teach them to trust their instinct and, if it doesn't feel right, take action,' Odor said."

  • Fathers, Daughters, and Anonymous

    Anonymous, does the concept of "Off Topic" mean anything to you at all? The article that this particular thread refers to has no connection to underage children, fathers, or the Virginia Department of Health.

    It's wonderful that you have strong opinions about the way fathers are treated in today's society (which is not to say that I agree with you on all of them). But tossing them like water balloons into spaces in cyberspace where they have little or no relationship to the surrounding items, or the purported purpose of the space, might be seen by many as the act of a troll, a spammer, or a nutjob.

    It's not a question of your message, but rather your choice of venue. And simple etiquette. Are you taking out a moment to think before pressing that Send button?

  • The issues are completely related...

    It's related to the overhyping of threats, the paranoia that feminism induces, the lack of responsibility that feminists take, and mostly to the presumed guilt that feminists want society to place on men.

    What's the difference between gov't saying that drinks need condoms and gov't saying you should call to report fathers holding their daughters hands?

    Not much.

    Feminists should be outraged in either case.

  • gosh, the perfect accessory to go with that "kitty not happy" t-shirt ....

    the things women these day are announcing about themselves ...

    so glad Salon's and Broadsheet and Cary Tennis exist to let me know about these frontline issues....

    Thanks, I think I'll watch my drink the old fashioned way ....

  • But but but...

    With a lid how can I get the bartender to pour me an extra shot when I've gotten to the bottom of the whiskey and coke?

    Seriously...getting roofied happens. Happened to a friend of mine. It happened to me too (someone put it in my drink as the waitress was making her way from the bar to my table. Fortunately I left with my friends shortly thereafter having only taken a few sips of the drink).

    But that just seems sort of silly. Although a spill-proof plastic cup like you get at Boba shops would be nice at crowded venues where glass breaks and drinks get sloshed about, and the bar only serves highballs. Like crowded musical festivals like Coachella, or something. Beer already comes in plastic cups there, anyway.