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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:00 AM

Jordin sparks "fat" debate

Fox: "Should physical size factor into who wins 'American Idol'?"

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Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:37 PM

Jordin is beautiful

Jordan Sparks is gorgeous and I would say an ideal size and shape. I seriously doubt a fit person of her weight has anything to worry about in the health department.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:39 PM

This debate would be a lot more interesting...

If Jordin Sparks were actually overweight. Throughout the whole competition I was thinking how nice it was to have someone who was of a healthy looking size-- not overweight like Reuben or Lakisha, not rail-skinny, just sort of nice-looking.

I'm so naive.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:45 PM

changing standards

Jordin is not your classic 'overweight' person. However, even if you ask her, she would most likely prefer to be a little slimmer and healthier too. The problem is that we Americans don't know what normal is anymore. A 'normal' kid today is probably 10 pounds heavier than a 'normal' kid in 1977 (just a guess, but admit it, it's probably right).

It is counterproductive to point fingers or shame others, just go out into the world and take care of your body. Remember the type of active lives our bodies are programmed for. The best way to honor oneself is to go outside and work up a sweat (not to starve yourself inside and make fun of overweight people).

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:57 PM

Nice To Know THAT Social Need Is Being Met. Again.

Right, because what fat people really need is an entire group of people devoted to telling them that they don't deserve anything positive because of their size. Because we don't already have anything else in our society filling that role, like, oh, say, EVERYTHING.

It never ceases to amaze me how mean-spirited and spiteful people can be.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:01 PM

Jordin is healthy and lovely, and I didn't even like her

I was devastated when Melinda was eliminated and hated that Jordin won since Melinda, Lakisha and 3 or 4 others were all consistenly better singers and performers, but I too think that Jordin is beautiful and healthy. She's 6 feet tall and her dad is a former NFL player, of course she isn't going to be a size 0. I too was very happy throughout the competition that someone tall, beautiful, healthy and normal was so popular. She has probably struggled her entire life with getting used to and loving a body that, while lovely and healthy, isn't considered as sexy by society. How cruel of the Fox program to make her feel bad about it, especially when their claims aren't even true.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:05 PM

Funny how action against obesity...

...always seems to basically just consist of denigrating obese people. Or anybody who happens to wear a size larger than the supposed "advocate".

This woman isn't anti-obesity, she's got some form of evangelical ED. Evidence? The wedding gown deal. She claims that gaining 10-20 pounds after the age of 18 is "materially compromising" to your health. But gaining 10-20 pounds is not enough to make you "obese" if you were of a healthy weight to begin with. It is in fact perfectly healthy to go from being a skinny 18-year-old girl, maybe 5'4" and 110lbs with a BMI of just-barely-healthy 18.9, to a 40-year-old woman who weighs 135 with a BMI of 23.2. You should still eat well and exercise, of course, but fitting back into the clothes you wore at 18 is not a healthy goal for women of that age.

So she claims to be anti-obesity but is in fact also against anybody who hits even a size 14, and I know a number of people who wear sizes around that number whose BMIs aren't even into the "overweight" range. Even the upper end of "healthy" isn't acceptable to MeMe Roth, which means that presumably those of us who naturally fall into that range are supposed to do whatever is necessary to starve ourselves into size 6s and meet her personal definition of "not obese", which does not in fact match the definition of the health care industry.

She's not anti-obesity and people really need to call her out about that. This isn't about health, this is about her personal crusade to rid the world of people who she thinks look fat.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:09 PM

Selections aren't based on talent or even completely on marketability

They're based on the marketability of particular segments. Jordin won because she fit the demographic they were aiming for. It was simply put, her turn. I mean how many variations on Man, Woman, White, Black can you spin? They had to go for the 'classic' younger black female demographic. It's called an audience pool. Jordin fits to a 'T', millions of young ladies that age. She is exactly like them in basic look and outlook, shape and size. That is what they were going for. Positive stereotyping if you will.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:14 PM

However, even if you ask her, she would most likely prefer to be a little slimmer and healthier too.

Probably, and that's really sad and indicitive of a dysfunctional culture. What in the world makes anyone think Jordan Sparks isn't "healthy" One of the reasons I loved seeing Laila Ali on Dancing With the Stars was to see a gorgeous woman who is not a stick figure. It really sickened me to see Carrie Underwood go from a beautiful healthy looking woman to one that, in my opinion, is too skinny and yet no one seems to concerned with Ms. Underwood's "health."

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:17 PM

So one Dixie gasbag = a debate?

The woman who beamed that "Eddie Van Halen made me promise I'd never get fat"? Really? MeMe... the name is too well-built for the internet, but I guess if she were a hoax and not a deluded amateur dietician, she'd have "Dr." somewhere near her name. Then she'd have the barest semblance of credibility. Hey kids: if MeMe Roth's not looking at your check-up results, you don't have to listen to her.

Oh, and I love that David Lee Roth (no relation, Lord willing?) gets her thumbs-up for being as skinny as he was thirty years ago. Because drugs and Jack are fine if your BMI is within range.

I'm with a previous poster - maybe there'd be something to say if Jordin were overweight. Even then, you'd have to prove to me she was unhealthy. She looks fuckin' fabulous, by the way. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to try on my wedding dress.

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:25 PM

Is she overweight?

I'd give anything to look as great as she does.

This is a joke, right?

Wednesday, May 30, 2007 01:28 PM

10-20 pounds after 18 is that bad?

She claims that gaining 10-20 pounds after the age of 18 is "materially compromising" to your health.

Jebus. I'm 32 and I weight exactly 20 pounds more than I did at 18, but guess what I weighed at 18? 110 pounds! I'm 5'5"! Dig out yer BMI calculator and see where that height/weight ratio falls!

Yikes.

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