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Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:00 AM

More orgasms for single women

And childless women have longer careers in the sciences. Is being married with children a bummer, or what?

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Monday, April 2, 2007 01:27 PM

Correlation vs. Causality

Maybe husbands cause fewer masturbatory orgasms, maybe singleness causes more.

Maybe a third factor causes both.

Sunday, April 1, 2007 12:45 AM

-- The dead should come too

According to Mick Jagger, they can. Of course, they would not participate in the action and would make no visible sign of orgasm. So it would be like fucking a woman, according to erlik. Or maybe just a woman he has dated. :-o

Sunday, April 1, 2007 12:40 AM

Then, throw in the facts that it generally takes longer for a woman to orgasm

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Friday, March 30, 2007 11:41 PM

Also

As Yellowdog, pointed out, it's not entirely clear what is meant by "single."

Friday, March 30, 2007 11:39 PM

Did they ask men?

Because I'm guessing the real "problem" isn't that men are somehow underperforming or being selfish in bed, but that masturbation is a more reliable method of achieving orgasm than sex with a partner.

There have been times when I have been unable to reach orgasm with my girlfriend, whereas on my own my "success rate" is 100%.

Then, throw in the facts that it generally takes longer for a woman to orgasm, that men are generally the ones generating the movement, and that women present no consistent outward sign of orgasm (no equivalent to ejaculation), which can make it difficult for men to learn what is effective for their partners, and the deck ends up being pretty stacked.

Also, with masturbation, the person masturbating is obviously already aroused and desires orgasm. In partnerships between men and women, this is not always the case for both partners engaging in sex.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 07:19 PM

Touchy subject,

but not so ambiguous, really. We know that:

1. The marriage contract, by its very nature, constitutes a restriction of autonomy and personal control, especially for females,

2. Perception of decreased control and autonomy increase anxiety and insecurity, which impairs psychological well-being and sexual responsiveness, and therefore

3. Duh.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 05:42 PM

I expect to see an article here soon

Decrying the lack of sexual liberation dead women.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 02:35 PM

Maybe try original reporting

Maybe it's time for broadsheet to cut down on reports of what other people are reporting. Half of Carol Lloyd's submission is text from the original article. The rest is a collection of questions, assumptions, and conjecture that adds nothing meaningful to the conversation. Carol claims to "...consume more and more of these studies and surveys that explore contemporary women's lives...", but it seems that it'd be more accurate to say that she consumes more and more of the -reporting- of the studies and surveys. And we consume more of her reports on the reports of the studies. Excellent. And Carol certainly isn't alone amongst broadsheet submitters in this respect.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 01:40 PM

News Flash: Single Women Have Sex!

OK, I'm tired of waiting for someone else to point out the fallacy of the apparent assumption here that masturbation is the ONLY way single women get orgasms.

Virtually all of the single women of my acquaintance - straight, gay, divorced, widowed and never-married - have regular sexual partners.

Although they do not usually discuss the frequency and circumstances of their orgasms with me, I gather from other conversational and body language clues that the sex they have with their partners is as least as satisying as masturbating.

Otherwise, why stay with a partner who doesn't satisfy - sexually and otherwise?

That's the thing that always seems to be missing in studies and stories of this sort: that a single woman's lack of legal obligation to a partner makes it easy to move on to another.

A guy who can hang on to a single woman - especially one who is financially self-sufficient - obviously meets a standard higher than that required of a husband.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:30 AM

hard working is not the same as workaholic

"I think some of them are fleeing because it's so mentally exhausting to deal with the kind of workaholic borderline autistic men who dominate in these fields"

There is no question that science and tech fields, like nearly all fields, are dominated by people who work extremely hard - how else should it be? The "workaholic borderline autistic" comment, however, is total BS. I am a successful scientist (a PI at a major university)in a highly mathematical field. My experiences prior to becoming a scientist include coaching track, being a full time (paid) environmental organizer, being a field manager for an agricultural labor contractor, and teaching high school in an African village for two years with the Peace Corps. In short, I have known many people in many walks of life and have reasonable knowledge of a broad spectrum of humanity. I have also met and interacted with hundreds of scientists and have good knowledge of the spectrum of personalities among them. Most are friendly people with good social skills, with families and other outside interest, and who also happen to be very committed to their work. I have children and so interact with many people who also have children. All of the scientists that I have observed with their children are good parents. In fact, I would say anecdotally that they are better than average parents. Yes, there are some jerks also. However, most people understand that there are jerks everywhere. Based on the coworker horror stories that I hear from my friends in the business world, I would guess that there are far fewer jerks working in science.

That someone works harder than you does not make them a workaholic. That they have better techinal skills than you does not make them "borderline autistic".

Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:29 AM

Scientific careers are being offshored

"But the point is there are no jobs out there in science or any other profession that I know of, that expect anything less than 40 hours plus."

Absolutely right. Throw in the large amount of R&D outsourcing to India and China, and a scientific career that pays well and gives you a chance for a life seems more and more remote.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 09:59 AM

Duh

If you're single, you can focus on yourself without having your "vibe" interrupted by a partner moving around, changing rhythm, etc. Slow, steady, not distracted...sounds like a no brainer to me.

Thursday, March 29, 2007 08:41 AM

Brad Pitt never has to be asked to help with the dishes...

Isn't it possible that this study (assuming they are comparing masturbation to maturbation and not masturbation to married sex)is just saying married people have less satisfying masturbatory lives than single people?

Granted comparing orgasm to orgasm is a touch issue with men vs. women, but most men will tell you that there are differnt levels of pleasure even if the physical results are the same.

So what you have is a woman with no physical attachment (presumably they are single or widowed) and have only an idealized fantasy to think about while pleasuring themselves, and married women who even while fantasizing have their commitment to their other always in their mind and all his numerous flaws and foibles as well. The same no doubt is true for married men. Speaking as one myself, I can say that even when one tries to enjoy a fully selfish fantasy, ones real world life is always there to remind you of your obligations and responsibilities. Perhaps it is not the spouse persay, but the sad realization that you will never be invited to the Jolie-Pitts next threesome that causes the frustration for the married.

An even more telling study would be to ask these single women if they would trade their higher self induced orgasm ratio, for less frequent orgasms ocasionally aided by a companion who had promised to love, honor, and cherish them for as long as they both shall live.

Orgasms are great, as are threesomes with the Jolie-Pitts, but I don't know if any one would say they are better than the love of your spouse.

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