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Friday, September 15, 2006 12:00 AM

The blogosphere's breast debate

Blogger Ann Althouse rips on Feministing's Jessica Valenti after she poses for photo with Bill Clinton.

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Friday, September 15, 2006 07:51 PM

much to do about nothing

This is by far the dumbest thing i've read all week. This year we've had clear cases of interference with the FDA over Plan B and the HPV vaccine approvals (real issues regarding women and society), and this is what Ann Althouse chooses to pick a fight over. Anyone who's been on a college campus over the last five years would argue that Valenti's outfit is frumpy by today's standards, and anyone who's endured a professional photographer for more than 30 seconds knows they twist you into all kinds of ridiculous poses and facial expressions.

The blogosphere is very proud of itself, but crap like this just provides more evidence that its nothing more than a soundingboard for people who otherwise would garner little attention in the real world. Read the right column of the Daou report sometime, and you'll find alot of angry lonely people. I pity them all.

Friday, September 15, 2006 07:55 PM

Oh, fer cryin out loud...

I got all excited reading about the breasts! And then I looked at the picture. What a letdown. She looks fine, but she could wear that outfit, with the same make-up, hair, and pose to teach Sunday School. And Clinton is paying no attention to her. Holy waste of time and ink, Batman.

Friday, September 15, 2006 08:20 PM

I hope this demonstrates clearly that the idea that SOME feminists have a problem whith sexuality

isn't just a misogynist fantasy.

Friday, September 15, 2006 08:26 PM

What? Clinton is in the picture?

I couldn't see him because of all the breasts! For shame, for a woman to have breasts. I'm sure the President was completely offended.

Friday, September 15, 2006 08:42 PM

Q: What's more boring than two feminists arguing about who is more of a feminist?

A: Two feminist bloggers arguing about who is more of a feminist.

This is the sort of embarrassing didactism that should never make its way outside a Womyn's Studies class. Why don't we follow this up with an exhaustive debate on dialectical materialism and then conclude the evening by listening to one of Fidel Castro's nine-hour speeches?

And Broadsheet doesn't know any better than to take this crap seriously? It isn't THAT much of a slow news day.

Friday, September 15, 2006 08:59 PM

*snicker*

I'm just amused by a Broadsheet writer having the nerve to call other women "catty."

Pot, meet kettle. Shake!

Friday, September 15, 2006 09:08 PM

Ann Althouse is so out of bounds...

Maybe Jessica Valenti should have showed up wearing a burqa...

Friday, September 15, 2006 10:47 PM

Is it a coincidence?

That the only bangable chick in the lot is right in front of Bubba? She's got nice tits, not great...but she needs to tone up those arms a bit. (You should have posted a picture of Ann Althouse, whomever she may be, for comparison.)

Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:10 AM

Female stereotypes.

Yes, it seems Althouse is doing her best to keep those stereotypes alive. There's floozy intern. And then there's catty bitch.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:21 AM

CB is right

The rack isn't bad, but she really needs to hit the gym and do something about those arms, and that belly. The rest of them are just scary.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:37 AM

Why do women keep each other down?

I did not read Ann Althouse's blog, but the description of Ms. Althouse in Tracy Clark-Flory's article makes my blood boil. Feminists celebrate the female form, and recognize physical beauty as separate from one's intellect. Catty, insecure "feminists" like Ann Althouse keep women as a group from overcoming the sexism that true feminists have battled against for centuries.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 12:53 AM

you guys have pretty high standards

if she's in bad shape then most women, and men, are in REALLY REALLY REALLY bad shape. (Which they are)

Saturday, September 16, 2006 01:02 AM

is anybody really so stupid and /or blinded by ideology or emotion

that they don't realize that ANY picture of a group is going to put the short people, (that would be the women) in the middle and in front so that everyone can be seen

Saturday, September 16, 2006 01:09 AM

Same Old Story

Woman's inhumanity to woman.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 01:14 AM

The Photo Merely Demonstrates

How important it is to be fitted with the proper bra. Feministing looks like one of about two women in the photo who have been fitted recently.

Anyway, we all know Clinton is an assman...

Saturday, September 16, 2006 03:06 AM

and you wonder why men are still in charge of everything

exhibit one:

We're not fighting over tits.

(See, a smart male in a similar situation would have either a) completely ignore it and it would have died on its own a quick death or b) looked up the offender and broken his jaw with a baseball bat. Either way, point made, point taken, next issue.

Broadsheet, thanks for the photo link. This was almost as, well, titillating as the link to the sports bra page.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 04:38 AM

Foolishness

Althouse has something of a track record for the inadequate understanding of feminism. Her temper tantrum over who was conducting her/himself in what she considered an acceptably feminist fashion at Eschaton is part of the Hall of Fame for Great Idiocies. This business of inappropriate criticism of a woman for having a bosom in the presence of a male is merely another example of her remarkable tin ear.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 04:42 AM

Please alllow me

To say this:

This had nothing to do with breasts.

This was political.

In the same way that rape is a crime of violence, not sex, see?

Ann Althouse a feminist? Well, I suppose she doesn't place her daughters in a burqa. But she's much more of the Independent Women's Forum sort. She can't help herself, see.

She sees Clinton, and of course, any attractive young woman becomes Monica-ized. Standing nearby means seductive complicity, and that she must be Luring the Pervert.

Then the real woman speaks up, and does she say, "Oh, sorry. I was just contributing to some idle political gossip"? No. Never back down. So she insults. She demeans. Very familiar. Very political.

When Judge Anna Diggs Taylor made her decision of the unconstitutionality of the warrantless spying program, what did this law professor Ann Althouse do? She got an op-ed in the New York Times, decrying the decision -- not for what it said, of course, but for its breasts. Did I say breasts? I meant she criticized the poor logic, the faulty arguments of this Liberal Black Woman Appointed by Carter. Affirmative action, see? Nothing with the fine, crystalline logic as a proper conservative white woman would write. Like herself. Only she'd have found it constitutional. With faultless logic and beautiful style.

Somehow all this is very familiar, and the feminism part is just peripheral. Like the sex part of rape.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 04:48 AM

Althussy

Seems to me the Althouse would like to make molehills out of mountains.

Saturday, September 16, 2006 05:14 AM

What's wrong with Althouse?

Have something against breasts Ann? My breasts are larger than Jessicas! Does that make make me a poser too? Are feminsts allowed to have feminine bodies or is that somehow feministly incorrect? Ann, there are all kinds of bras on the market for those of you who are ashamed of their breasts, just get one, feel better about yourself, and leave the rest of us busty women alone!

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