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Thursday, May 25, 2006 12:00 AM

Let's play group sex

After a flurry of protest, toy maker Hasbro will not manufacture the Pussycat Dolls' dolls.

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Thursday, May 25, 2006 09:13 AM

Is that a serious question?

Do you really not see a difference between Barbie and the Pussycat Dolls? I must be missing the Barbie sex song, or the "Stripper Barbie" doll. I wasn't aware that Barbie now came outfitted in Times Square hookerwear.

Growing up, I never saw Barbie as a put-down towards women. Maybe because I was 7 and I didn't think that way. All I knew was, Barbie could be anything I wanted her to be. A doctor, a veternarian, a rock star. Only as an adult was I aware there was an issue with the way Barbie looked... but I've never heard anything said against her incarnations. Barbie does everything, from swan lake to race car driver.

The Pussycat Dolls are a burlesque show, for crying out loud. There is a gigantic difference between a 4 year old playing pretty pretty princess with an impossibly thin Barbie and playing pretty pretty pole dancer with an impossibly thin Pussycat Doll.

Gain some perspective, they're not the same at all.

Thursday, May 25, 2006 09:13 AM

"Don't Cha" isn't about group sex.

Did you pull that straight from a press release? It's actually about a woman who's flirting with an attached guy, saying that she'd be better for him, but too bad he's got a girlfriend. I guess the line "But I know she ain't gon' wanna share" could be a veiled group-sex come-on, but that's pushing it.

Anyway, the PCD are a joke burlesque outfit. Hey, 'NSYNC had dolls, and "Digital Get Down" is filthy (also: dumb as hell). Perhaps I've said too much about pop music.

Thursday, May 25, 2006 09:16 AM

Misinterpretation

I've heard the song, seen the video and just looked up and read the lyrics, which confirms what I thought when I read this. The song isn't about group sex. It is barely about sex! The song is just "You should be with me not her" blah blah blah. Catchy, vapid and just another pop song.

Thursday, May 25, 2006 09:16 AM

the song's about what?

Um. I just looked up the lyrics, and if there's any group sex in there, I can't find it. Want to take another glance at the words?

Thursday, May 25, 2006 09:19 AM

They're actually kinda feminist!

They're not as dopey as they seem...

Lyrics to Beep:

It's funny how a man only thinks about the...(beep)

You got a real big heart, but I'm looking your...(beep)

You got real big brains, but I'm looking at your...(beep)

Girl, there ain't no pain in me looking at your...(beep)

[PCD]

I don't give a...(beep)

Keep looking at my...(beep)

'Cause it don't mean a thing if you're looking at my...(beep)

I'm a do my thing while you're playing with your...(beep)

Ha, ha-ha, ha-ha, ha-ha

Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:09 AM

Doe this woman have a job?

Omg, stupid people, and in brooklyn of all places.

Does this lisa flythe person have a job so she could concern herself with morei mportant issues, or is she just a busybody stay at home mom with nothing better to do?

If you don't like the doll, don't BUY IT! Maybe someone else would actually like it...

Oh well, another point for repression, puritanism, and arrogantly assuming you represent everyone.

I also think it's interesting that it takes only 2,000 complaints to pull a product off the market. What if 2,000 crazies complained to trojan about condoms? would condoms be no more?

Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:17 AM

I'm disappointed

My 7 y.o. daughter wanted one of these dolls. She's really into the kewpie doll/whore/slut thing right now. We're going to have a birthday party for her where all her little guests are going to dress up as whores (they're so precious in their spiked heels). It's going to be at the Pink Taco in Scottsdale.

Thursday, May 25, 2006 10:48 AM

"I stand corrected, the song is not about group sex. However, I stand by the fact that you can still have your Pussycat Dolls dolls play group sex."

Haha! Awesome. Red star for Goldstein's sense of humor.

LeCastor's right, in that parents have the freedom not to buy PCD merchandise rather than send angry e-mails. But if 2,000 people just chose not to buy the product and then they calmly told Hasbro why they chose not to... well, that's a boycott. Just as legit as a letter campaign, but maybe less knee-jerk.

I've heard - this is third-hand, though - that McDonald's had a longstanding policy whereby if a few dozen people suggested/complained about the same thing, it would immediately receive consideration. This Hasbro campaign isn't 30- and 40-year-old GLAAD activists protesting Eminem - they're not exactly his target market, so he has no reason to back off his rhetoric and his label had no reason to make him - it's ostensibly 2,000 people right in a major toymaker's wheelhouse. Toys aren't really supposed to engender controversy (although the Bratz line seems to have gotten by a lot of concerned parents). Video games, records, movies, yeah. Toys, not so much.

'Course, it's so easy to send an e-mail, I wonder how a company weighs it versus phone calls. Or how they weigh honest beefs versus a shepherded campaign, by say, the Parents Television Council: http://www.diggersrealm.com/mt/archives/000499.html

Hey, Proud Father, I hear the PT has a great birthday room. But you have to bring your own pie. CAKE. I mean cake.

Thursday, May 25, 2006 11:04 AM

Dressing like "Little Whores" is all in the eye of the beholder

Hey, Proud Father, I hear the PT has a great birthday room. But you have to bring your own pie. CAKE. I mean cake.

Brad, you are one funny guy. Seriously.

But really, Proud Father, what's the problem with your little girls dressing up like ostensible "whores"? What is so "whorish" about the clothes they wear? Is that there is too much skin showing?

For one thing, i'm wearing a knee-length skirth and a sweater that shows my elbows. And you know what? 100 years ago in victorian england, i would probably be considered to be dressed like a "whore." in fact, those "whores" from yesteryear probably were actually wearing more clothes than modest little old me is wearing right now.

And another thing, what's more offensive? Dressing up like little whores, or letting your 10 year olds dress up like little catholic school girls to go to school? you know, knee-length plaid skirt, white shirt, patent leather shoes with white socks. Worse, let your 17 year old dress like that, and men will be after her on the street.

Btw, there's crazy planes flying over manhattan today for fleet week, and it sounds just like 9/11. fucking great. that's just what i need to feel SAFE :(

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