Let's allow schools do their job: teach.

If it happens on school property with school machines or while accessing school programs (such as Blackboard) then open up that can of school whupass and make the little bastard suffer.

If the kid types it at home on his machine, school board please let it go. That's just not your realm. That's why we have the law and courts. And I hope every parent of a female student named sues in civil court the dirtballs who wrote and FWD'd it. Let's start a trend: people are responsible for what they say.

I wonder what universe SG inhabits. A list created by jerks is a teenager's "worst nightmare"? And this list, circulated by a small group of kids, is out there "for all the world to see"? This is just silly bullshit made worse by a silly journalist...

When you're in high school, "the entire world" doesn't mean, well, the entire world. It means the miniscule universe you live in - your town, your school, your classes, your friends.

To the girls on this list? Yes, this is possibly the worst possible thing in the entire world that could happen to them. It's embarassing, it's degrading, and most of all it opens you up to more ridicule and harassment as word of the list gets around and people scramble to see it.

We had a similar situation at my high schoo, though if I remember correctly that list was ordered on the basis of "fuckability". I was friends with several of the girls named and to them, it was like the sky had fallen in. Some girls skipped school, some hid in the bathrooms and cried, and some got angry and tracked down the people who did it and got them punished.

In my school's case probably about two hundred people saw the list. That's, again, not the whole world, but for the girls I knew, that was pretty much everyone they might come in contact with in their daily lives.

It's not "silly bullshit" if it happened to you.

Think of it this way. Gentlemen, would you like to walk into your office tomorrow to be greeted by a photo array of each male co-worker's genitalia, along with the amount of your salary and an evaluation of how much hair you still have on your head?

That's pretty much how these women feel - humiliated, debased, and reduced to a shallow assessment of their self-worth.

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Something like this happened at my law school...yes, that's right, *law school.* A group of first-year men made a list of who they considered the hottest first-year women, photocopied it, and left piles of lists around the law school. Whether you are a teenager or an adult, such an act is embarrasing, hurtful, and inexcusable. While people may talk about such things in private with their friends, it is not an appropriate subject for publication. Women deserve more respect than to be publicly dissected as sexual objects. To anyone who thinks this is no big deal, ask yourself how you would feel if your sister or daughter or mother was on such a list.

<< Isn't that what we're all afraid of all of the time? >>

I was completely uninterested in high school what people thought of my looks,

and I had one of the best relationships of my life in high school.

People seem to automatically gravitate to wanting to be in with the in crowd. It seems a big misplaced sense of entitlement and arrogance and stupidity for someone to think they are of value only if they catch the eye of Joe the Football Stud.

most of those shmoes who were popular in high school are now losers reliving their memories and working as salesmen for copier companies.

I wish more teachers and others would tell kids it is vital to develop a sense of individuality rather than chasing a phantom such as popularity.

but I guess girls still judge their value on whether they're the one blowing Joe the Football Stud.

I thought feminism was supposed to remake women into real people who try to better themselves and make themselves more interesting and valuable in ways other than looks. Guess I was mistaken, again.

Cheers,

<< I was friends with several of the girls named and to them, it was like the sky had fallen in. >>

frankly maybe a list like this is a good thing.

it might make women more human by reducing their dependence on their looks and making them realize life is not all sweetness and light.

and that some guys, like these posters, are jerks who they should avoid like the plague.

I mean what guy is reduced to simpering because some girls post that he is number 21 on a list of 25 guys in terms of fuckability?

most guys would just try to work harder on themselves, or else look for other ways to make themselves valuable, or else go to hookers, or (like me) piss and moan that women do not know what sort of men are good men and they keep willfully choosing jerks, or they would do some or all of the above.

women only suffer from a list like this if they buy into the premise that they are only the sum of their fuckability. which makes them stupid.

and it didn't work, but I'm trying again.

Memo to the editors of Broadsheet:

The noun 'media' is plural. As such you must use a plural verb with it, as in "The media ARE reporting..."

Why don't you know this? You make the same mistake again and again.

i can't believe this even warrants a post! people are actually shocked that this goes on? rubes.

this went on in my jr. high, my high school, and yes, also in my first year law school class. undoubtably i could find out if it existed at college and in every place of my employment, if i really cared enough to track such nonsense. the funny part is that if i even appeared on these lists, it was probably in wildly divergent capacities. i could have been a dogface on one, and a hottie-boom-bottie on the other. who cares? it's meaningless. why would anyone place value in the opinion of people shallow enough to make a list like that. yes these lists are childish and immature. you can either choose to be humiliated by it, rise above it, or ignore it altogether. seriously, in terms of life, there are FAR greater humiliations one can suffer.