Say what you will about hog farming, killing woman and killing pigs is not the same thing.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1081282971385_5/?hub=CTVNewsAt11

You should have learned to hate PETA a long time ago. I mean, sheesh, they're against the March of Dimes cause it tests on animals. And you're up in arms over this ad? What about the one comparing chicken farming to slavery and the Holocaust? How do they manage to mess up such an easy cause, the saving of cute animals?

You love your bacon until, or even after, you realize that it was human flesh that assimilated it? Go back to watching Deadwood, dude.

And, BTW, pigs are just as smart as dogs, and the worst treated mammal there is, after rats and mice. The only comparable non-mammalian example is chickens. But hey, you like your 15¢ wings and ribs, go right ahead, be my guest, and bitch about PETA all you want. It doesn't change the fact that they are right and you don't give a shit.

As for the original article, I didn't watch the clip, which did sound a little vulgar by the Page's description - but my interp. as to the comparison is that while we refuse to view women's breasts primarily for their primary purpose (feeding babies) we don't see cows as anything else. Both are wrong. No man could give a hoot that big breasts produce more milk (not an anti-man statement; they don't produce more milk). But for most men, breasts are there primarily for them to ogle and play with whatever their size, and they justify themselves by saying size is the Darwin selection criteria. And so money-minded or insecure women go and get them augmented. And cows are more than just their udders, and need to be cared for wholistically.

Buy your milk from Canada or Vermont, anyway.

They say there's no such thing as bad publicity. Though I think this one is also wrongheaded, we are at least talking about the cruelty of dairy farming in a major online magazine, so maybe they know what they're doing.

By the way, this group is not against the March of Dimes, it's against animal experimentation. So am I. So are lots of people. And, it's not about saving cute animals, it's about ending the abuse and suffering of all animals in human industry, regardless of how cute the animal is.

They are so wrapped up in their insular animal rights world that they no longer understand how to talk to ordinary people. And their extremism turns off many people who might otherwise be sympathetic to their message.

That's funny that PETA would compare chicken farming to the Holocaust because PETA is FACIST.

PETA wants to control your actions and force everyone to follow their rigid belief system.

No freedon to choose for yourself.

Yeah, it's pretty out there, although some of its campaigns--a touring demonstration of how vegetarians make better lovers, for instance--could possibly give some people pause. And some were pretty funny. If I'm not mistaken, wasn't PETA responsible for the spay-and-neuter-your-pets ad featuring a cat orgy while the owner is gone, or was that a different organization? That was hilarious!

Whatever we think about breastfeeding notwithstanding, I think the idea of this commercial was to equate drinking cow milk with drinking human breast milk, the notion of which most adults find pretty distasteful. Add to that the "eeuuwww gross" factor associated with lactation fetishes, and this was essentially another over-the-top PETA antic. The people who are offended by this ad have probably mostly already made up their minds about PETA, but will probably find other animal-rights organizations to be more reasonable by comparison, making them seem more "middle of the road." And some people may indeed be put off by the comparison of cow "breast milk" to human breast milk, or at least by the inhumane practices used to extract it.

No, CosmicMojo, PETA does not want to force people to do anything. It wants to persuade people to do things. That's a big difference.

and its ridiculous and self-indulgent grand-standing actually harms the cause of animal welfare by convincing most Americans that only nutballs believe in protecting and enlarging the rights of animals.

>>No, CosmicMojo, PETA does not want to force people to do anything. It wants to persuade people to do things. That's a big difference.>>

Throwing paint on someone's fur coat IS forcing them to follow PeTA's beliefs on wearing fur regardless of the law or the owner's own beliefs.

PETA'S job is to lobby and persuade, but they ignore those possibiliy routes and use physical violence to force people to follow their beliefs and to intimidate them.

That is facism.

There is a very long tradtion of vegetarianism being considdered an act of aesceticsim, self denial and avoidance of the enjoyment of life. In addition the act of telling people tht they ought to be vegetarians can come accross as preachy and moralistic. PETA is fighting this image really hard by focusing on sex. I think it has worked about as well as it could generally. They may have hit a slightly off not this time, at least with some.

The entire factory farm industry would no longer be economically viable and PETA would accomplish most of it's goals. They really should focus on this. I've had more than on person insist that PETA doesn't focus on inhumane farming at all. This is completely untrue, but their more radical positions crowd out everything else in some peoples' minds. Animal rights pressure of which PETA was a big part has led to a humanness "revolution" in slaughtering because the big fast food chains now require it of their suppliers as a rusult of public pressure by groups like PETA.

What I found objectionable in the video was the latter part, with all the obvious and probable fabrications about dairy cattle. I realize that in a very complex world, we must often invest our trust in others to assess the state of things, and to issue to us a report of what the facts are. Folks of all levels of intelligence can at times invest their trust in a source that is not worthy of the investment.......Sean Hannity is one unworthy source. PETA is another.