Personal ads, anything, because no one wants to have sex, or deal with sex, with their kids or parents but those people ARE part of the public. What to do, I guess we should go back to the Victorian era, or maybe, I don't know if this is possible, people could learn to cope.

...would be attained immediately, if every man's thought of, relationship to, interaction with, and treatment of every woman were informed by the thought, "And if this were my sister / mother / daughter in this situation..."

Feminism is necessitated by the simple failure of men to have an imagination.

From what I read in The Fix, today, right here on Salon, Howard Stern was worried that

his enemies would buy blocks of tickets, throw garbage at [her] vagina, take nude pictures of [her] and put them all over the Internet.

Sounds like he wasn't upset that she'd be nude publicly, but that she'd be abused by people that have problems with him. He didn't want his daughter to suffer for his fights. Considering how quickly her real identity was discovered, he may have had a point.

This just proves that even parents whose careers involve pelting naked ladies with ham are willing to intimidate their daughters into chastity. I hate to break it to you, Howard, but I think Emily's chances at the Presidency are already ruined, even without the strip act.

Wish I'd read your letter before posting mine. Looks like there's more going on here than parental prudishness.

Wow, Rebecca, you really surprised me by taking the inane garbage that Lloyd Grove spews as the gospel truth.

First, he is a gossip columnist. Second, he is considered the biggest hack of a gossip columnist among all of the gossip columnists in NY.

Third, did you bother to read the ridiculous things that followed Lloyd's lead paragraph? This Tuvia Tenonbom character is a bigger joke than Lloyd Grove. He is a former rabbi, but he calls a person a JAP in a public forum? His show is widely panned, yet he blames the closing on ONE actress leaving the show? He quotes Emily as saying that her father told her his enemies would "throw garbage at her vagina"?

Rebecca, I am fairly liberal and a strong supporter of feminism and feminist causes. I have also listened to Howard's show for nearly 20 years. The things that Tuvia Tenonbom claims that Howard said sound NOTHING like what Howard says on a regular basis. They sound like things that someone invents who only THINKS they know what Howard Stern says on the radio.

Face it, Rebecca, Tuvia Tenonbom is trying to stir up publicity and/or controversy for his failing show, and he is planting a patently false story with hack Lloyd Grove to do so. Hey, Paris Hilton managed to get a fake story planted in the tabloids, how hard can it be?

But for you to turn around and report it as truth is fairly shocking.

By the way, Howard made it clear on his test show on Sirius this morning that Lloyd Grove's story has no basis in fact. As you may not know, Lloyd has been inserting barbs about Howard into his trash column for the past couple of years because Howard will not sit down and give him an interview, which he mistakenly thought he deserved, along with a parade in his honor, when he came to NY as the new gossip columnist.

Sad.

Lynx has it mostly right and Anaalog has it mostly wrong. While the fact that it was his daughter made him squeamish about her being on stage nude (any father would be squeamish about this), more likely Stern did not want the notoriety he gets in the media projected onto his daughter.

I do not think it is a problem that a man wants to pay to watch a pole dancer but does not want his daughter to become one herself. Women project this sort of classism all the time on each other, it goes without saying men should be able to also.

when IS prostitution becoming legal by the way? I for one would love to go to a safe place to pay for good hot sex legally.

So the goals of feminism would be met if men stopped having sex, or wanting to have sex, with women. A lot of men suspect this, and a lot of women deny it, glad the truth has finally come out (unless you are recommending sister/mother/daughter sex)

My Dad was about as far left as they come (some days) and as sweet as a Georgia peach--a polar opposite of what little I know about Howard Stern.

BUT, he would have said the same thing as Howard STern did about his little girl appearing nude on stage.

This is a parent's love for his child. Geeze, if he did something you deeemed NOT loving towards his daughter you'd give him heck. So he acts loving towards his daughther and you give him heck.

What you want the man to pimp out his daughter?

As someone else said, we'd like all men to ask "what if this were my daughter, sister, mother?" when decidding how to treat women.

and it has nothing to do with feminism, for gosh's sake.

It's a man who doesn't want the world to see his daughter nude.

This is why we're so polarized, people bastardize any subject as artillary to further their cause and everything gets caught up in it.

People, can we please distinguish between the Kabbalah followed by the "Kabbalah Center" acolytes in Hollywood and the actual Kabbalah? Kabbalah is not a "Jewish mystical sect," it is a mystical interpretation of the Torah. See Wikipedia for more information (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabbalah).

We Jews get cranky when our traditions are coopted by businessmen *cough* I mean spiritual leaders selling red strings for profit.

wants to visualize their daughter having sex, the two things are variations on the same theme. This does'nt mean that doing either of those things are wrong, and it certainly doesn't mean that these emotional reactions should form the basis for our understanding of how the world should be organized. Taken into account yes, determinative, no. Is prudery so ingrained that people can't understand this?