This from someone who is about a 3, head to toe. And I'm being generous.

Are you seriously getting your knickers in a twist about a guy rhapsodizing on the importance of boobies? You must go around pissed an awful lot of the time, if that's the case.

Next time, try harder.

Dear Salon,

Please give it a rest !. Are you that shocked that men talk about women's bodies in detail. "Gasp"

what a horror. Seriously, you cannot be seriously offended by this harmless banter can you ??

If so every man in the world is guilty. This is normal and standard guy talk.

What a newsflash.

I don't believe that male students are getting the short end of the stick. Studies monitoring classroom discussions show that male students are called upon more than female and are taken more seriously.

You know, it was once the case that females were considered to be to flighty and airheaded to be serious students. They should only be taught the home arts, because they couldn't be serious enough. When the typewriter was invented, it was thought that only men could be good at using such a technical instrument. Now some are saying boys are too flighty to be serious. What next? All children these days are less disciplined. Salon just discussed how shopkeepers want unruly children out of their businesses.

Women are more motivated to be good students, because education is a leveling credit that can't be taken away. Even with ageism and sexism, men can succeed, not just to get a job they couldn't get without a high school education, but to get to be considered for that manager's position. School is also one of the safest social environments for young women where their achievements are recognized. Of course they are more motivated.

Guys are rewarded for being the coolest, active guy in class, where girls still have that good girl/slut polarity to contend with. When guys begin to think it's cool in their guy groups to achieve at school, more guys will do so.

I have friends who are teachers, and they have to manage their classrooms. There's a whole generation of students who hate to read and will not read quietly in a classroom or at home and students who will not do assignments, if it involves concentration and writing. There's a certain amount of obeying instructions that has to go on in a classroom. Students of both sexes have difficulty at these thing these days. Their parents ask them what they'd like to do if not what it is they tell them to do. Teachers have to measure a student's achievement and are under pressure for these specific measured results. It's not about liking one sex over another in drawing up a certain amount of quiet paper work. Parents are demanding verbal tests and any modification to assignments so their child won't have to sit quietly for twenty minutes and read. They say it's because boys will be boys. Well, once, check your history books, it was the girls who were too flighty to sit still and do serious reading. What happened to demanding more of ourselves?

When it is mentioned that boys are being discriminated against in all the cases I've seen, it's all about the boy not being able to sit quietly and read or to write, and this is even for homework assignment, not just the classroom. How many men at work do you know that get to turn in verbal project or accounting reports because they can't be expected to sit quietly and complete them? Because they are men?

For young men, it's the approval of their peers and other older men that's important, not the teacher, where girls are still on that good girl syndrome. Its not feminism or the teachers who like girls better than guys (research into who gets the more serious treatment contradicts that anyway), it's the young mens society that are writing the rules of success and admiration to be not sitting in rows in class and learning. They still will get the manager's job before a woman anyway.