What the hell is wrong with Americans that so many of them think that they never have to adapt their lives to their circumstances? If you've got children, leave them home or don't go to bars. A bar is a place for adults, period. Otherwise, why not just take the tykes to a strip club as well? They're too young for the two-drink minimum and their little hands can't tip with a fiver effectively, so it's not like anything wrong is going on, right? Take 'em to the local XXX cinema too. As long as they sleep quietly next to you, I'm sure the other patrons won't mind.

Cripes people, show some freaking maturity. You shouldn't have to be told how to act like a responsible parent, but clearly you do. Kudos to the bar owner who posted the excellent warning, and I hope you bar-hoping baby-pushers get done in for contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

I have always believed in two things for which I will never accept any compromise: I believe in the absolute separation of Church and State and I believe in the complete separation of children from places where I choose to drink.

...that this is even a question. When I had my daughter, I knew a lot things would change, including my social life. I am lucky enough to have a bright, well behaved little girl who tends to act better than some adults when she's out and about, so behavior is not the issue. But I do have a responsibility to my little one to act like a parent and treat her as a child, and not as a drinking buddy. I haven't seen an R-rated film in four years, and most of the beer I've consumed has been at home with my boyfriend after we put thelittle one to bed. That's what happens when you have a child. Live with it, or just don't have kids.

I totally understand that ill-behaved children or crying babies can be annoying, but the article wasn't about behavior, it was that the mere presense of a child would spoil their enjoyment. The funny thing is, there wasn't any explanation as to why this could be so, other than a general charge that its not "responsible" to have a child in a bar.

So, what's so special about drinking alcohol that it shouldn't be done in the presense of children? We've been taking our daughter to bars since she was a baby, and now at five is able to chat with the bartender, order for herself, meet new people, and generally have a good time along with her parents. I think that setting aside alcohol in particular as having an adult mystique elevates it to a point that can cause abuse problems later.

Well, don't stop breeding (unless of course you are sensitive to population and environmental concerns) just stop pushing your lovely little one in our faces. Yes, they are cute, yes they are the next generation, but when I go to a bar, one of the things I am seeking out is a childfree environment. If I were interested in kids 24/7, I'd have had some of my own.

The same is true of R rated moves. I once went to a late night (midnight) showing of Fantasia. When the Care Bears movie trailers produced heckles, a dad in the front turned around and yelled "Do you people mind, my kids are here?!" In fact, we did mind.

Come on people, there are child friendly and family appropriate places in this world, and there are other places that are not. What is next, bringing your kid to a strip club? How about an X rated movie? I know, bring them to the after hours Las Vegas show and scream at the show girls to cover up, there are kids in the audience!

Whether kids hang out in bars is not really my concern if they're well-behaved, but double-wide strollers ARE the bane of Park Slope. Nothing like being trapped in a drugstore because doublewides on either side of you make exiting impossible. And what about the thrill of ducking into oncoming traffic because of all the doublewides taking up the entire width of the sidewalk? Can't someone build a two-story stroller?