This letter is associated with the following article:
Letters
Wednesday, December 7, 2005 12:00 AM

Apple juice, straight up?

Brooklyn bar declares war on strollers.

Read other letters about this article

  • Wednesday, December 7, 2005 07:25 AM

    Depends on what the meaning of "bar" is...

    Got a menu beyond burgers and fried appetizers? Do more of your volume at tables than the bar? Then you're not a bar, you're a restaurant that serves drinks, and since you're not a fancy one, fair game for families with kids. Deal with it.

    Real bars, on the other hand, of the neighborhood variety, should be inviting only in way a cave mouth is. If a stroller won't fit through the door, it's a sign.

    Of course, parents who take kids anyplace without regard for fellow patrons deserve censure. Going out has to include being willing to take kids outside if they start crying or otherwise disruptive. That's just common sense, or it was once upon a time.

    As an aside, taking kids to eateries where "they can be kids" confuses the activity of eating with the activity of playing, which is already a hard distinction to make for a three-year old. Better to go to a restaurant and THEN the playground. And cheaper, usually.

Most Active Letters Threads

683

Obama's exceedingly familiar justifications for escalation

The "new" approach to Afghanistan touted by White House officials seems quite old
543

The crazy, irrational beliefs of Muslims

Tom Friedman explains the real problem: stupid Muslims think the U.S. is about war and aggression.
440

The face of rotted Washington

Evan Bayh demands more debt-financed war - fought by others - while boasting that he's a stern "deficit hawk."
410

The commendably missing element from Obama's speech

There was no pretense that human rights is our goal, or the likely outcome, in escalating the war
287

Yes, it's Obama's war now

An uninspiring speech sells a dubious policy, but progressives who feel betrayed have only themselves to blame

View all »

Letters Help

Currently in Salon