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Thursday, December 1, 2005 12:00 AM

A man's right to choose -- a second take on Dalton Conley

The New York Times opinion writer is a little bit right: A man should also have the right to abort his baby.

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Sunday, December 4, 2005 09:39 PM

You have the right to not be a father, Mr. Manjoo -

Wear a condom.

Saturday, December 3, 2005 09:42 PM

I think you are right, to an extent...

When you say that, a man shouold be able to get out of the financial aspects of having a child. Obviously my boyfriend cannot compel me to have an abortion if I don't want to-that's my choice. But men should have a choice too. They may not be able to choose to terminate- but I think they should be able to choose to relinquish all rights. Not at any time, you understand...You can't have the child, raise the child and then stick the woman with sole responsibility 10 years down the road. But up until the legal limits of abortion, you should have the same right to relinquish responsibility as the mother does.

Saturday, December 3, 2005 12:27 PM

Man's right to choose

Certainly a man shouldn't have the right to abort the fetus, but I believe that he should have the right to choose if he wants to be a parent.

I propose that men get the right to deny child financial support to their future children. Sending a notarized letter in the first trimester of the fetus' development would exempt him from having to pay child support. It would also remove any legal claims he had over the child. By limiting it to the first trimester, it would give the woman time to decide if she wants to have the child with no paternal financial support.

With this proposal, BOTH the man and the woman get to choose if they want to be parents.

Saturday, December 3, 2005 12:02 PM

Vasectomy is your friend.

Farhad, dude! Get a vasectomy. Once the seed is spilled it's her body, no one else's.

In a healthy relationship you get a chance to talk about it, then it's her decision. If she cares about you, then you're lucky, your feelings might matter at the moral level. But we don't get the right to determine what someone else does with their body, regardless of gender.

You make your choice at the moment of insertion. After that, she's in control. Any other system is called slavery.

Friday, December 2, 2005 10:17 PM

You're still missing the point- This is about every person's right to control their own body

I sympathize with fathers on the issue of wanting as much say in this matter, but please, try to put yourself in a pregnant woman's shoes.

Aborting a fetus involves destroying something that is, at the time, part of a woman's body. No adult should be able to force another adult to have a surgical procedure they do not want to have.

What if your wife, partner, etc. wanted you to undergo a surgical procedure that you did not want? What if the government said you had to destroy part of yourself, even though you desperately did not want to, solely because your partner said you had to? Would you not feel violated? Would you not feel as if your body was being treated as something your partner had greater rights to than yourself?

This is about a right every adult should have- the final say over what should happen to his or her own body.

Friday, December 2, 2005 09:05 PM

The ONLY reason there is a pill for women and not men

is that it IS SO MUCH EASIER to get a woman's body to become infertile than a man's. THE ONLY REASON

Friday, December 2, 2005 07:54 PM

Reproductive rights

Reproductive rights are very important to everyone. But women didn't get them until the Pill was invented. Until that time, women could be held hostage to a single sexual act, at any time, where not only nine months of her life but then her entire financial and social life would be impacted for the rest of her life... unless she got an abortion, which could kill her, or managed to conceal the baby and give it up for adoption, which resulted in children haunted by the uncertainty of their heritage.

Then the Pill was invented. Now, *most* sex acts are risk-free for women.

Men invented the Pill. Men can invent one for themselves too.

Guys, the solution you want to implement legally cannot exist; in the best interests of the child, a child who has already been born must be supported by both parents (this includes the mom, if she didn't abort and if the father didn't agree to let her give it up for adoption.) Legal solutions couldn't be crafted to give women reproductive freedom until the Pill was invented, either. What you need is to work on a *technological* solution. You're way more than half of the world's biotech researchers; get cracking.

Want reproductive rights? Get 'em the same way women got 'em -- through a birth control drug. Mad that you don't have one yet and women do? Lobby drug companies. They are dragging their feet because they don't think there's much of a demand.

I am sorry that you can be tricked into fatherhood (and fuck, but the case of the boy who was raped being sued for child support is just WRONG. No one should ever be responsible for the child of a rapist unless they want to be. Of course, I also think the baby should have been taken away from the rapist mother, because rapists should have no parental rights to children conceived by rape and a child in the hands of a pedophile is at high risk of abuse, but that's beside the point.) But that's just the way it is. Until abortion was safe and birth control pills had been invented, women were tricked into motherhood all the time, which, I assure you, sucked much worse. What saved women was not a changing interpretation of the law, but better medical technology. It can save you too, but you gotta push for it.

Dudes, you invented our pill, now get off your asses and invent one for yourselves, and stop whining about wanting to terminate parental rights to a kid you accidentally fathered. You can't, because no one else will pick up the slack you left. (Unless you want society to pay for *all* children... in which case your taxes are gonna be outrageous, you do realize this.) Children are best served by the financial (as well as emotional, but that can't be compelled by the state, whereas the financial can) participation of both parents. So the way to not have to support a kid you don't want is to have the technology not to father the kid in the first place. And you are in charge of all the drug companies. So convince your fellow man that you will buy this shit from him and make him rich, and he will make it for you.

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