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Tuesday, November 29, 2005 12:00 AM

Meet the drama kings

Dalma Heyn's new book explains why "drama kings" are afraid of smart women.

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Tuesday, November 29, 2005 01:23 PM

"drama kings"

How about an article delving into why "strong women" are attracted to and go out with these neanderthals. And even more interesting that once they get them are shocked at their behavior. Plus how most "strong women" are physically repulsed by the same modern men they say they all want and don't trot out that old horse that the evil patriarch has brain washed these "strong women".

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 01:36 PM

Not really about Drama Kings

My comment isn't really about Drama Kings, just one idea that the last paragraph of the article inspired.

Consider the difference between a conversation and dictation, dialogue and monologue, and then ask yourself: which style does Broadsheet (which I'm taking, perhaps wrongly, as an example of modern feminine thinking) favor?

If one wants happiness in a relationship, then that relationship must favor dialogue. Sadly, it has been my experience that the current political climate doesn't favor dialogue between the sexes. On the conservative right, it favors men dictating to women. On the liberal left, it favors women dictating to men. Both are wrong. Both are hypocritical.

A man must be able to communicate his desires to a mate without being instantly accused of misogyny, bigotry, sexism, prickishness, etc. A woman must be able to communicate her desires without immediately being accused of being a ball-buster, bitch, or worse. That's not happening, and it's a problem on BOTH SIDES of the political spectrum.

The sad fact is, with politics, both the right and left are in it to win, not create understanding. Because of this, neither side will really help. There are numerous examples of conservative social commentary that display this, but it must be said, Broadsheet is just as inflammatory, just as quick to relish contention and use the worst examples of male behavior to suggest something about all men. It's petty, vengeful, artless, and - ultimately - useless. And it's too bad that the left couldn't be relied upon to rise above the behavior of their conservative adversaries.

Seems the bar is real low these days, and it's going to stay there.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 01:54 PM

Men do acknowlege women's strength, that's why they behave this way

Women's relationships with men are, now, truly voluntary in a way that they weren't in the past and that men's relations with women (for other reasons) never were. Since one party to the discussion, negotionation, whatever it is uniliterally has the right to define the terms of the "debate", set all the limits of what is and isn't negotionable, determine (for both of them) the TRUE meaning of everything that is going on, what is left to do?

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 02:15 PM

To "oxymoron" responding to "a man"

I just had to respond after reading oxymoron's insights about "a man"'s wife's PMS behaviour. I absolutely agree -- it seems the high-maintenance, princess/diva types are getting married ... so why are men marrying them and complaining later? I have seen this phenomenon among my own relatives. I'll never forget my cousin in Britain who married this guy who worshipped the ground she walked on, but she clearly had zero respect for him. The day after they were wed, my aunt and uncle had guests over at their place, and the new groom was trying to be helpful and set the table for dinner. In a loud, booming voice, in front of everyone, my cousin proceeded to dress him down and ordered him to put down the glasses and stop. He was clearly humiliated, and I felt terrible for him. How the hell do people treat each other this way?? On the other hand, if, as a woman, you're the least bit respectful, nice, encouraging and giving towards a guy, the guy usually becomes "emotionally unavailable" and tunes out. When I was in Greece recently, a friend told me this quote that a friend of hers told her. "Men are like postage stamps. The more you spit on them, the more they stick." At the time, I cringed at the harshness of it. But now, slowly, it's dawning on me that it may, in fact, be true.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 06:52 PM

To "a man"

You wrote:

"Just stop for one second and consider what it feels like to be informed that, no, you're not important, no, you're not essential, no, you don't make enough of a difference to be necessary. You're a nice option, like a CD player in a car, but as soon as you can't or don't deliver the goods, you're gone. God help you if you have a problem, or get sick, or need some help,or are blocked for some other reason. Commitment? Principles? Values? Nah. You don't build a life together, you sort of acquire an accessory with a penis."

Now if you just substitute "big breasts" for the last word of your paragraph, you will have described the situation women have always faced. Just ask any first wife who has been dumped in favor of the younger model.

Tuesday, November 29, 2005 10:33 PM

supposing you're right munkus

now what?

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 07:12 AM

Why DO men love bitches?

I totally agree with oxymoron and Torontonia. My male friends all enjoy making fun of high-maintenance women, but they do seem to be the ones who get married first. I think that really men and women really aren't that different in that there are some of each who constantly yearn to be with someone who doesn't really want them. (Psychotherapy anyone?)

I'll have to admit that I used to be one of these people and spent 4 years with a drama king. Life has gotten much better since I decided that the most important characteristic to look for in a man is someone who really wants to be with me. Once I realized that it's not the things that men (or women) do for us that are important, it's finding someon who WANTS to do them, I became much more successful in love.

Wednesday, November 30, 2005 09:17 AM

WOMEN TOTALLY DISRESPECT MEN

I think so called liberated American women want to demand men to behave only in a certain way and then walk away from him if he is not perfect as per her demands.

This is deeply disrespectful to men. Men cannot just change and ignore their own needs so they can be servants to some woman's whims.

This failure on the part of women to respect men why American women and men will continue to spiral down into oblivion and failure.

I want kids. I cannot get them until I learn to be a virtual slave to a woman. Doing as she sees fit.

This is deeply troubling to me and the reason I stay away from women unless it is for light chatter and occasional sex.

One more thing, most women do not use their heads when choosing men, they choose those who are the smoothest talkers, have the hottest buns, and drive the biggest truck. Those guys can get anyone, anytime. They do not NEED you wither. What is worse, the women have the nerve to whine that their little irresponsible stud is not a good responsible man. pathetic, really.

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