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Thursday, November 17, 2005 12:00 AM

Finally, women can pay for sex too!

Heidi Fleiss is opening a new brothel near Las Vegas -- for women.

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Thursday, November 17, 2005 08:48 AM

Indications are bad

Germany opened a for-women brothel. It sputtered along for a short time and then tanked altogether. I'd guess we'd see the same thing, here.

Thursday, November 17, 2005 09:46 AM

what a relief

When I argue with my boyfriend, what do I do? Lot of times, I go out, get a drink, and then turn a few tricks to let off steam. If Heidi Fleiss gets her way, I can finally "get serviced" -- just like my man!

Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:04 AM

Sample Bias

It's interesting how we tend to think that our experience is typical, even when the signs are pretty strong that it's not. Just because you see a lot of men running to whores after an argument with their wives doesn't mean that any significant fraction of men do it. It could just be that you work in a whore house.

I wonder if anyone bothered to tell Joe Richards that, as a brothel owner, his view of the typical man may be a little bit skewed.

Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:35 AM

Brothel for women? What a fabulous idea.

As a wealthy woman with little patience for as-yet-unreformed man, I welcome the idea of such a brothel. Men have yet to accept and catch up to the changes women have undergone over the past 30 years. It appears each man (regardless of socioeconomic status, intelligence level or things accomplished) still imagines himself worthy of being treated like a king by the women in his life (regardless of their socioeconomic status, intelligence level or things accomplished). For someone as successful as I, a brothel might very well be the only place where I can at least simulate the kind of respect I deserve. I only need 'em for companionship and sex anyway. Why the hell would I put up with their sense of entitlement if I can pay to make it go away?

Thursday, November 17, 2005 10:53 AM

marta, is this Broadsheet or Broad Generalizations?

Just because the men you go out with don't give you the respect you feel you deserve doesn't mean such men don't exist. And you think someone who's fucking you because you're paying them is going to be overflowing with respect and post-feminist understanding?

Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:10 AM

Just a few problems with this...

Equal rights are great, but I see a few problems here. I don't agree that it will be a fun spot for bachelorette parties -- just because bachelorettes like to stuff money into the bikinis of male dancers doesn't mean they actually want to go all the way with a stranger. Unlike men, a large majority of women prefer being in a relationship --or at least on a date -- or at least knowing the guy -- when they have sex.

And doesn't the very biology of men work against making this work for the type of women who would be most in need of this service? To put it bluntly, isn't it harder for a man to get it up -- especially repeatedly -- for a woman who is perhaps older/less attractive/heavier/etc.? I'm sure Viagra works wonders but I don't know whether it goes quite that far.

Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:12 AM

No woman would pay for sex from an average man

when she can get it for free. Sure maybe a very rich very ugly woman MIGHT pay Brad PItt to fuck her if he could prove that he was REALLY into it but that is it. Women have fantasies that men get a lot more out of whores than they really do. No woman would pay for what men pay for.

Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:34 AM

The question you asked was "would [I] pay for sex."

I've thought about it before reading your article, and my answer is "yes". Especially if that sex was safe and legal. Sure, in some theorhetical world, I could just go drinking and take a guy home from the bar... but that's never worked for me before and it doesn't seem very safe.

Now I should point out that I am a moral person. Part of why I would pay for sex is that I don't want to get into relationships with people that I can't be true to for the sake of a roll in the hay. Yes, I own a couple of dildos and a vibrator and most of the time that's fine. But sometimes you want the real thing and you don't want to have to pamper your partner's ego in order to get what you came for.

There may be some liberated, post-feminists who live in a world where they don't have to pay to get this... but I prefer to be up front. I expect to pay when I get good service.

Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:43 AM

Good for Heidi

One of the responces to this news story said, "No woman would ever pay for sex with an average guy." Well, Heidi has said her guys are not average but hunks, but, frankly, there have been many times I would have paid for sex with a non-hunk average guy. There is a myth that women can get sex whenever they need it. Clearly, this isn't true or the growing and welcome market of erotica for women wouldn't be growing if it weren't WELCOME. And needed. As someone who has enjoyed porn for gay males for most of my adult life (because those were the only source of photos of naked men with erections), I am thrilled with the growth of more material for straight women to enjoy. And sex for hire?? Oh yes!! Women are no different than men--at least this woman isn't--in wanting to have sex with a living human being who's been tested and cleared (as whores for men are in the best whore houses) and then, paying him to be there for sex and then TO LEAVE. Equality is about CHOICE and Heidi offers that. I love the 21st Century!

Connie Congdon

Thursday, November 17, 2005 11:56 AM

boy whores

i don't really think male prostitution is really a new concept. the only thing that might be different about this venture is the star power of Heidi Fleiss and possibly a more "classy" feel to the place, but ultimately, i think it will be more of a passing fad than a secure and successful business. it will succeed for a few years for the same reason Elvis Imitators still get work. you'd kick yourself for going to Vegas and not at least stopping in

Thursday, November 17, 2005 01:23 PM

I wonder if this will be another difference between men and women.

While I am in complete agreement with the notion that women should have the same access to sex for hire as men, I am not certain that women will have the same motivations. Having been a "hobbyist", as the terminology calls it, I can tell you that the reasons men go to female sex workers ("providers") are as varied as there are men. True, we often talk about the desire for acceptance and support from a sexually attractive woman, but the truth is we just want to get off. And, we seem to be wired to seek new partners, even if the old partner was just fine.

I don't know if the motivations of simple sexual gratification and variety are strong enough in women to support this style of "hobby". Women may need to define their own definitions of this trade. I am not sure what it would look like, but I have a strong suspicion it will be very different from what men want. Perhaps Ms. Fleiss has the insight to create such a business. I don't know, but I wish her, and all her clients, good luck.

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