"So how does that work? Which are we?"

Of course, we are whatever serves their purpose and argument at that particular moment. Luckily for them, we are diverse enough to for them to paint with any sort of brush they feel like at the time. It's a little tougher for us when criticising them--we always have to use that narrow little brush that loses it's bristles too fast.

"Thank you. I made no attempt to downplay the seriousness of the crimes for which Libby has been found guilty.

However if you believe that a jury verdict is proof positive of guilt then you really are delusional."

That post says it all about the Bush supporters. They have nothing anymore. Nothing. "I made no attept to downply the seriousness of the crimes, but excuse me while I downplay the seriousness of the entire case."

Just listen to his "logic." Juries have been wrong before, therefore, the verdict of ANY jury can be called into question if you don't agree with it's decision. Pure drivel.

"There's a difference between having a Conservative editorial policy and publishing an entire page of back-to-back lies. Todays offering sets a new low."

I think this is what conservatism means these days. Telling lots of big lies. They have been reduced to that. It's all they have left.

"There are people on all sides of this issue who, for various reasons, approach it with high levels of emotion and personal investment and they end up making all sorts of accusations about other people as a result. That is why so many people avoid dicussing this issue at all."

Until very recently, I was certainly one person who avoided this issue. For example, just reading the types of responses Juan Cole's pieces received here at Salon made my skin crawl. Thanks to folks like Glenn and Juan, I'm beginning to see the picture more clearly.

"I have a horrible head cold today (hence the light posting) and my comments, I see, are replete with typos of that sort (I wanted to write about Fred Hiatt's editorial atrocity in the Post this morning but couldn't summon the focus or energy - the anger was mixing poorly with the cold medication to create one blindly raging mix, so I thought it best to wait until tomorrow)."

Even as I type this, a letter writer over at Salon's War Room are quoting that very Post op-ed as support to their argument that the Libby trial was a witch hunt.

it's "is," not "are," and "his," not "their."

Damn this stealth posting at work!

If Fitzgerald is such a partisan hack, why did the Bush administration appoint him? Surely they didn't just draw his name out of a hat, right?

And if Joe Wilson is such a liar, why hasn't the Bush Administration pressed charges? Certianly they could find some crime, for all he's put them through if that were the case, right?

Why the "prboably" lied part? How about, "convicted perjuror." That's way more accurate.

And Ashcrift stepped out because of a quaint little thing known as "conflict of interest."

And you still didn't answer why the Bush administration would have hired a "partisan hack" to investigte this matter.

"The Clintons perfected it."

If they had perfected it,Clinton wouldn't have been impeached, would he?

Okay, now I get it. Clinton and bimbos vs. Bush and lies about the rationale for war. Same thing, I guess.

5 years, millions of dollars, a few ruined careers, all because of someone's simple gossip. Yeah, I'm buyin' that.

But it wasn't, so it doesn't.

I think I've read and heard more lies in the last 24 hours from conservatives trying to cover up for Libby than I have in my entire life. Just bald-faced, throw-shit-against-the-wall-to-see-what-sticks, lies. Incredible. You guys can sit around and eat up each other's lies all you want, I don't care. But for you to think that liberals are going to buy this shit is offensive. The gall and arrogance of your projection is truly amazing.

Get it through your thick head.

"Libby was convicted of two counts of perjury, one count of obstruction of justice and one false statement, all of which arise out of the lies he told to the FBI and grand jury as it investigated the "outing" of CIA operative Valerie Plame. Dick Cheney's most trusted advisor is now a convicted felon."

You can spout out all the little conspiracy theories you like. If you want me to believe that Fitzgerald was on some partisan witch hunt--a proscutor CHOSEN BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION TO INVESTIGATE ITSELF!! You are barking up the wrong tree. Scooter Libby lied to protect Cheney, and certainly others. I know that Dick Armitage spilled the beans to Novak. So what? That is not the key point. If it was, then Libby had no reason to lie. So why did Libby lie? And MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY why did he obstruct justice so obviously? The only possible answer is that he had something to hide. If everything was as above the board as you say, the Bush Administration could have handled this publicly and openly. They did just the opposite.

Scooter Libby: Convicted Felon

I love how all these blood and guts, law and order conservatives are now painting a federal prosecutor as some evil character, and Libbby's lawyers--what do you guys call them? Oh yeah, greedy ambulance chasers--are somehow now saints, even though they've spent their careers as you guys charge, trying to keep criminals out of jail. And Fitzgerald, a guy who has spent his career putting criminals in jail, is now some unhinged, reprehensible character. Hilarious. Your cognitive dissonance must be quite painful this week.

I'm not hating, just saying Mr. Sanchez needs to get over himself before he can properly determine who his real friends and enemies are.

here's one vote for the Barbara Lee plan.