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Florida is not a lock for Hillary. It's about 50-50...It's a lock loss for Obama.
We are conceding Florida. On that basis alone the supers should pick Hillary.
Last night had the tired, used-up flavor. Once you take away that dynamic, what is left?
It's by more than Dukakis was landslided in his general.
Obama peaked in a bunch of mickey mouse caucuses a couple months ago. Don't get mad at me.
Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Michigan. On that basis the choice is clear--Hillary.
If you don't get 2025 you can't have it stolen from you......If you want to change the system where the most delegates short of 2025 is the automatic nominee, then propose that change for the future.
If Obama is the nominee and loses to McCain it's because Obama was an inadequate candidate, and the writing was on the wall beforehand.....It won't be Hillary's fault. Sorry.
Needs to start pounding him on patriotism with steady ads now.
Hillary is down about 200,000 votes in the popular counting Florida.
Hillary even whipped him in the speech game last night. Obamas rhetoric is getting old and tired and hollow. In the end he will have his groupies and almost nothing else. He has peaked.
She wins the nomination one way. If the superdelegates want to win the general. That's her only path.
I watched the results come in.
And from joy I wept.
Be clear to superdelegates and something they have to consider strongly. If Obama is the nominee we are conceding Florida.
Of what we do about the Florida delegates, we are screwed in Florida if Obama is the nominee.
Is an absolute warrior, or warriorette.......She's making Olbermann's head explode. I love it.
The question is how does Obama win the general.
Cannot win Florida in the general. And Ohio and Pennsylvania would be toss-ups. Hillary stands a better chance in all 3. Unless Obama gets 2025 pledged delegates this should rule him out, if we are serious about winning leastways.
Was worn out and tired, and there's 7 months to go. He's peaked.
It's obvious where this is headed. One more resounding thud in the general. Hillary is the only one that can win.
Is search out and find about 10 non-partisan pollsters and political experts in the field of demographics, voting patterns, etc, and let them start conducting a data base. And then report to the superdelegates about hypothetical general election results with Obama and Hillary. And we should go with the concensus pick.
Obama's speech is starting to sound tired and hollow.
Needs to forget about all this crap and start sucking up to Hillary right now to be his VP....He stands no chance without her.
But I pray whatever case she is making to the superdelegates, that she doesn't sink to blackmail.
The end of this saga may be people approaching Obama at the convention telling him that his mouthy groupies have pissed off the Hillary camp so bad, he has to offer her the VP.
If you can threaten not to vote democratic for your reasons we can too, for ours.
Both sides of your mouth my boy. First you threaten not vote democratic anymore against your own self interest, next thing you are bitching at Hillary supporters who may do the same.
If Obama farts, you say it smells like roses, or we ain't voting democratic anymore.
So the Obama campaign is blackmail?
If Obama was to win the general, it could be 3 years in to his presidency and Hillary will be coming at him about getting the troops out of Iraq.....LMAO.
Stronger. She's warned about Mr. Speechgiver and the hot air. If he flops......
In the future no matter what happens, at 60 years old and counting.........Obama loses the general and he is finished, young.
Even if Obama is the sitting President. He's preached a lot of hope and change. He flops, she'll come at him in the next primaries.
Destroy the party. Destroy the party........Like frickin' robots.........If Obama loses the general it's because of Obama.
In 2012.
About Hillary's comments on Iran........If Iran was to become nuclear and launch a nuke anywhere, their entire country would be obliterated. Period.
Hillary is the one who showed how it's done. These campaigns watch the media like hawks. I'm sure Hillary is well aware that Olbermann is pro-Obama, but she appeared anyhow and took what I'm sure she realized was going to be heat. And she maintained composure. Likewise she has the guts to appear on FOX, unlike some others, not mentioning any names.
Tough guy Olbermann when the Wright story broke....He had Obama live on his show kissing his ass and helping him spin. Kid gloves all the way.
In the Hillary interview Olbewrmann showed the rest of the media what he shows them every night....how to be a total Obama lackey and ass-kisser.
With Reverend Wright and Michael Moore handcuffed to us.........I swear the left wing of our party lives up to the jackass symbol more each election.
Without Hillary as VP, he's a loser.
Don't tell me you are waiting for Obama to change your life.
She wins by telling you "I told you so" after the Obama defeat in November.
On the ticket with him, or he's toast.
Obama is an automatic loser in Florida in the general...........and he's not an automatic winner in Ohio Or Penn either.
Obama has no chance there. None. Hillary does.
She's polling even with Obama nationally among dems and equal in head to head hypotheticals versus McCain..........In fact she looks superior in some of the electoral college hypos right now.
Obama lost New York big, California big, New Jersey big, Texas, Ohio big, he's getting ready to lose Pennsylvania, and Florida and Michigan didn't count..........What a breath-taking victory.
In the 2008 democratic primary the same way Bush won the Whitehouse in 2000.
The superdelegates probably would have ended it then. Everybody knows he lost.
The general election is based on popular vote.