again, it is not the individual jokes...it is the persuasiveness of the material in her act. Maybe my statements have been unclear. But, I don't think so. The Jesus joke, in itself, is so outrageous that it, by itself, does not show racism. Her act, in toto, demonstrate racism. She is sympathetic, so what? I'm not the only one to make the argument...as demonstrated below:

“…I define hipster racism (I’m borrowing the phrase from Carmen Van Kerckhove) as ideas, speech, and action meant to denigrate another’s person race or ethnicity under the guise of being urbane, witty (meaning “ironic” nowadays), educated, liberal, and/or trendy…” - AJ Plaid

“..I've seen Sarah Silverman live a bunch of times and always found her very funny, though I never bought her line about telling the jokes ironically, or however she phrases it. Every time I've seen her, the audience has been overwhelmingly white…”

“Silverman has been booed off stage for ridiculing Martin Luther King. She has also been condemned by Guy Aoki, the head of an Asian watchdog group, for telling a gag that culminated in the word ‘chink’ on Late Night with Conan O'Brien. Silverman's response was to incorporate the episode into her stand-up. ‘[Aoki] put my name in all the papers calling me a racist and it hurt," she confessed. "As a member of the Jewish community, I was really concerned we were losing control of the media. What kind of a world do we live in where a totally cute white girl can't say 'chink' on network television?’“

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“Guess what, Martin Luther King? I have a fucking dream too."

“…Silverman has since turned the complaint into grist for her stand-up act, saying that the experience helped teach her the important lesson that racism is bad: ‘And I mean bad, like in that black way.’”

"I used to go out with a guy who was half black who totally broke up with me because I'm a fucking loser." A pause. "I just heard myself say that. I'm such a pessimist. He's half-white."

“…Sexually voracious and unashamed to the point of arrogance, [Sarah Silverman] compliments a black man she's dating by telling him that he would make ‘a really expensive slave.’”

"I don't care if you think I'm racist. I just want you to think I'm thin."

In re Jewish Grandmothers and Black Men: "Both love tracksuits, their car of choice is a Cadillac, they like bling and money and jewellery... and all their friends are dying."

“My skin is paper thin. People don’t realize it, because I’m sassy and I’m brassy, but I just— I see these CARE commercials with these little kids with the giant bellies and the flies, and these are one- and two-year-old babies, nine months pregnant, and it breaks my heart in two… “It breaks my heart in half. And I don’t give money, because”—out of the side of her mouth—“I don’t want them to spend it on drugs…”

I believe this woman is a racist. You don't. Fine. We are not going to see eye to eye about the issue.

Right out of Queen Bee and Wanna Be, the use of the third person, or phrasing your insults as if you are talking to a third person is the cowards way of communication.

"...wasting our time trying to speak sense into an ignorant soul (who's unfortunately incapable of detecting nuance and irony in humor) will do us no good..."

"Magdelyn probably thinks... that Randy Newman really hates short people too."

"magdelyn = sarah palin. Now we know what she's been doing with her free time..."

Please, tylergirly, tell me how Silverman's "Martin Luther Coon," statement is funny?

Detecting nuance? If Carol O'Connor were to go on Letterman, there would be no doubt that his Archie Bunker character is....a character. Sarah Silverman goes on a talk show, and there is plenty of doubt.

So very clever. Noone can accuse you of breaking the bounds of group think. You fit right in, with the other ticky-tacky boxes, all the same. Interesting you assault on me not engaging in the debate...which is baloney, since not only was the debate started by me, but I am the only counter to the bourgeois conformist crap being spouted. But your charge is especially intersting since you never stated your opinion on Ms. Silverman's diarea of the mouth.

You fit right in with the other members of the age of snide.

Let me say this as gently as possible...take your male feminist, limp dick opinion, and shove it up your ass...or...have your boyfriend do it...cause I don't care.

"Sarah Silverman is unapolegetically racist (& her white fans love that about her)" -blackbutchresistance

It may take a few years...or decades. With women's college graduation rate at nearly 60% and climbing, mixed with outright hostility toward helping boys, men will be unqualified for the position of power in the future. Sure, there will be enough to be elected figure heads.

Maybe the first steps are awkward, just like the women's movement, which is by and large entrenched. But, it will come.

First of all, be prepared to be called gay if you are involved in such a movement, or have your masculinity questioned. You'll be told to "man up."

Men have plenty of leverage. Let us not forget history, my friend. Any society that refuses to recognize the power of its men will be destroyed. Either from within or without. All this stuff we think is so freakin important...you can kiss that goodbye if their is are significant social tremors, or a tipping point to the power imbalance.

A men's movement can be based on inequity that results in the militarization of its young men. Young, uneducated, unhopeful men make great revolutionaries...the growth of Islamists demonstates this.

This is not Fukuyama's "The End of History." We just happen to live in a relatively tranquil period in our history. That can end in the blink of an eye.