So those women want to be with guys who are clean and treat them well? What uppity, superficial bitches. And that also says something about you, if you refuse to meet those criteria.

Maybe you missed my point or maybe I was not clear enough.

It is easy for an asshole who mistreats women to adopt the things women look for in men, namely what I mention, clean and polite.

This does not preclude me from also being polite and clean. But I do not have the 'performance' of the asshole down.

Also, I did not mention in my previosu post, but the assumption is if you do not want a guy who will never call again, get to know him first. Assholes will bail. Assholes mistreat others in front of you. Assholes do not get along with anyone in their family. Assholes probably already have a wife at home and another mistress or two on the side.

But sure, given the same criteria, clean and polite, asshole will 'win' over a genine guy because women do not want to look any further to discover if this is the case.

On another level, and what I concluded last post, is that both asshole and good guy (on the occasion he lucks out) will both get sex regardless of what they think inside.

Brightstar has invented a feminist "strawwoman." He uses her all the time while ignoring the real statements or real women. Brightstar cannot deal with real women. I suspect nothing in his world is very "real."

You wish. It is common knowledge how most women feel and what they think. Call it strawwoman, but reality is many people recognize it and know what I am talking about. It is not an imagined theoretical femminist position I attack but a quite real position many if not the majority of women take on to greater or lesser extent everyday.

I dealt with real women for decades when I was a 'friend' to many of them. Of course as a friend, I was too whatever to be 'worthy' of their physical affection because their hateful bastard of a boyfriend is 'hotter', WHICH OF COURSE THEY DENY CHOOSING HIM FOR THIS REASON.

I do not believe anything women tell me anymore, something I learned in my 41 years of life, because it is constantly contradicted by their behavior.

I AM TO BLAME FOR THIS?!?

that except in a few genuine cases of cruelty by a man, most women who are battered deliberately CHOOSE men that will satisfy this deep unconscious need of theirs?

Some women thrive on the thrill of emotions and will deliberately pick fights with their men in order to gain some drama in the relationship. This is a well known phenomenon among many men and women.

How do we separate the professional victims from those who are treated cruelly AGAINST THEIR WILL?

This is what I want to know since it saddens me to ever hear of men or women being mistreated by their spouse of lover.

Another question, what sort of male personality courts similarly abusive behavior from the women in his life? And why does feminism NEVER address this abuse by women?

is that the wealthiest nation in the history of the planet is deeply in debt and WE STILL DO NOT HAVE OUR BORDERS PROTECTED.

My ancestors came here LEGALLY.

I am beginning to suspect what Rush and Hannity and the other freaks say when they say the left is anti-American and communistic.

The borders are there to protect people who work hard in the states from those who do not work hard, could care less about improving their local governments, and only want handouts from government.

Good if you want bigger government, bad if you are a an ambitious proud person.

Maybe that is the problem, the left wants us all to abandon hope and self-sufficiency and cede it to mindless, unaccountable bureaucrats who will determine our personal fates for us.

In this case there truly is NO ONE on the side of the average American. what a fucking calamity.

losers sticking together

of a men's ghetto to match the women's ghetto offends and bothers me.

Why is it so objectionable to women that the men respond to their comments in ways that happen to displease women? Is this the best women can do is to only expect ideas that please them to be reiterated back at them? Are all of us men merely pawns in a meta classroom, being trained by the women around us to recite what they teach us to tell them?

I am serious.

The more I think about the arrogance of feminists, the more I realize just how much we men are missing in our lives, having to constantly walk on eggshells lest we say something offensive. All the while women spout anything they want about men, UNCHALLENGED, even if it is fraudulent or false. And guiltless about it are they too!

I know, I know the stock answer is to go see a shrink because obviously the feminist 'programming' did not stick to me.

how utterly arrogant.

I say we have a general gender section, men and women, hashing out those issues that men were not allowed to comment on in the past (since we were the SUPPOSED OPPRESSORS, thus shamed) while women wrote our death sentences for us.

Men are optional in this world created by feminism, while women are still critical. OBVIOUSLY this is not equality.