It's unlikely you'll encounter a fresh rebuttal to marriage equality in this thread. The bigots will cite God, tradition, procreative potential, blah, blah, blah. These threads always play out in the same way.

The deep disingenuity of the Right is revealed on a daily basis in their unwillingness to ban divorce. And the Bible further asserts that if you sleep with someone, you're bound to them forever. Everything that follows is adultery.

The people who oppose marriage equality are Bush voters, the same ones who recited that "Freedom is on the march!" in Iraq, but refused to march with freedom. They're the same people who recite "The Global War on Terror," but refuse to enlist. They're the same people who will vote for McCain to better hoard wealth because, uh, well, Jesus might not wish that, but they want Heaven on Earth, and just never you mind about the myriad Biblical passages that state the rich will never reach God. Hating homosexuals is such a nifty treat for them, because they achieve moral superiority by doing nothing.

They really are pervs.

Although I am a "ridiculous" and "pathetic" liberal and although I am not homosexual, I would still like to be your friend, for I could count upon you for civility. I can also count upon you for reason and constancy. Majority matters, doesn't it? It's not what's fair or right, but what side can muster the most fear and outrage. So, I propose the following propositions:

Proposition 10: Since women outnumber men and since men, on average, outearn women, let's vote to restrict the highest paying jobs to women! C'mon, women!

Proposition 11: Since poor and middle class people vastly outnumber rich people, let's vote to mandate that rich people's pools are public pools...and rich people have to personally clean them for the poor people who use them!

Proposition 12: Since white Americans outnumber black Americans, let's bring back slavery! Cotton will be king again! Rise, South, rise!

Proposition 13: Since Democrats outnumber Republicans, let's vote to nullify the Republicans' votes! U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

Yours,

The "ridiculous," the "pathetic" Bigguns

P.S. - How lucky your homosexual friends must be!

P.P.S. - I assume you refer to your other friends as your "heterosexual friends." Why, it wouldn't be fair to fixate on the crotches of the one group and not the other.

when I was a kid, I heard the racial variant of, "Some of my best friends are black, but...."

One difference is that with regards to race, the qualifier was often, "..., but I wouldn't want them to marry my daughter."

With regards to gay people, it is, "...but I don't want them to marry."

In this regard, homophobia is even more excluding and insidious than racism.

Disband our socialist Army!

Send our socialist mailcarriers home! Don't worry about them! Even through rain or snow or gloom of night, they'll make their ways home!

Let's burn down our socialist firehouses!

Vote for Bigguns! She'll do all these things!!!

Their hypocrisy sinks deepest when they voted for a torturing administration under the name of Jesus.

One thing that might support your hypothesis is the homophobes' insistence upon homosexuality being a matter of choice. If a homophobe has same sex attractions and denies that, they might then assert that sexuality is a matter of choice, since they chose denial.

I attribute homo-bigotry to the Right's relationship with authority, which is childish. You can see their childish yearnings for constancy in their notion of an immutable God and even in their distate of the cardigan-wearing Carter, who did not perpetuate that archetype of American presidency. Even though he was a sailor and an evangelical, he talked softly and did not locomote as if he had a crowbar up his arse, as W does. Regarding an unchanging God, have you ever conversed with a fundy and listened to them assert that the Bible is completely constant? Their love of immutability is only surpassed by their spiritual hypocrisy, for they'll kill gleefully, under the guise of patriotism, and treat homosexual citizens the very way they wouldn't want to be treated.

"If you willfully disobey God on life and marriage because of race or false hope for the economy, you will usher in the kind of change that brought the Soviet Union to collapse."

It's ironic because the Soviet Union collapsed because of unsustainable defense spending, which is the Republican Party's forte.

And I guess that Porter has never read, "Judge not, lest you be judged."

At least a sadistic serial killer tortures and then KILLS you, but God isn't satisfied with that: God, according to Porter, torments you forever.

So much for all-loving.

So, why should one worship such a deity? Fear? No wonder the Republicans ply with fear. They're doing what their God does.

Given the context of the Huck Finn quote, the quote is perfect.

"Of course, being Republicans, they'll end up in hell and find a way to spin it as heaven."

I think they'd prefer Hell.

Then, when they said the things they prefer to say about hating gays and hating brown and black people and loving war, Jesus wouldn't be there to say, "Whoa, Nellie!"

I think the focus on black preachers who target homosexual citizens arises from this: how can someone who's been othered and denigrated for difference do the same?

Indeed.

And this is why I'm not running for president, but Chief Decider for Life.