I think Salon wants the conflict, the drama, and the hits, thus these unfettered and sometimes feckless threads. Sometimes, like you, I quit Broadstreet because the threads get all gummy with the same people asserting the same things. And, like you, I return because there are things that I like about Broadsheet.

@ MMM

I wish Asehpe and I could kiss! Woundn't that be cool?!? Except I don't kiss married men, but thanks for thinking of us! Mightly neighborly of you.

Say, MMM, we know you're mad as hell and you're not going to take it anymore, but what next? Are you just going to keep telling us that you're mad as hell and not going to take it anymore or are you going to do something? Lobby legislators? Become a hermit? Go postal?

The evidence is on the guy's phone. And likely his computer. And likely on the Internet too if my understanding is correct that such pervs post pics on the Internet.

I think the Liberty University suggestion is a good one. Or these posters might be Sarah's personal pals. Or maybe Karl Rove has hired some kids to pretend to be just folks and say nice things about Palin. Something is amiss. These posters register and post and rarely post again. I've urged Salon to start sifting through their ISPs to see if there's a story here. I received one of those dirty tricks phone calls staged by a Republican candidate.

No wonder they want the Ten Commandments posted everywhere: they needed to be reminded, "Thou Shalt not Lie."

You are JUST going to keep telling us that you're mad as hell.

@ doppelganger

So, the guy's phone is sacrosanct, but the woman's crotch is public...and only a feminist judge would think otherwise? How about a decent judge, one concerned with civility? What if there is a witness? Witnesses?

Do you photograph women's crotches when you can? I ask because defending such behavior is something I can't explain otherwise.

Or do you believe that women TEND to accuse innocent men of such behavior?

I didn't realize before this thread that there is such a term as upskirt or that there are upskirt photos. I Googled "upskirt" and the Internet swarms with these shots. Thus, unless you've got a lone pervman theory, it seems that the grassy knoll is thick with these privacy thieves.

So, you're for privacy and basic civil rights. Got it.

Actually, I'm still so confused. You might want to pick some words other than "privacy" and "basic civil rights" when we're talking about upskirt pervs.

Woof!

None of you seem to have jobs, since you post in Broadsheet at all hours. And none of you seem to have girlfriends or wives, given your attitudes about women. So, you're lonely, jobless curmudgeons and that's why I'm verklempt. While I recompose myself, talk amongst yourselves. Here's a topic:

Do all women think all men are rapists?

"Don't start fights you can't finish. Both Japan and Germany did in recent memory. Things did'nt work out the way they'd hoped."

Silly boy! Germany and Japan own the U.S. Things worked out better than they expected. We protect them while they loan money to us! Day after day, we become more and more enslaved.

So, when are you going to have your Falling Down day, Angry White Guy?

This is tragedy, since nearly every young person is beautiful and they miss enjoying that youthful beauty and the good health that it signifies.

Cool.

Do revisit.

Do!

As you realized, my question wasn't posed in earnest. You seem like a very good guy and I'm sorry that you're profiled as otherwise. You can, to a degree, understand the plight of young black men, but at least you don't have cops pulling you over, as they do.

Hey, if you smiled at me, I'd smile back. And if I saw you caring for your kid, I'd smile at you for that too. Promise.

Here's my story, so that you can further understand how the other half lives: when I lived in a city, I rather walked down a shadowed, deserted street than brave the gauntlet of boozy boys on a street of bars.

Thanks for explaining that "upskirt" isn't familiar to non-porn people.

"'So, when are you going to have your Falling Down day, Angry White Guy?'

The moment you become a beautiful, loving, intelligent, fair-minded person.

Deal?"

NO DEAL! I don't want you to have your Falling Down day! You must not have seen that Michael Douglas movie where an Angry White Guy starts killing people. If I accepted your deal, you'd be going postal right now. So, no deal, dude.

You're the second poster who suggested I'm fat. Odd. That MaureenO'HaraO'DonnellO'Reilly did too. If you've read my posts, then you know that I rappel into caves, scale waterfalls, and self-locomote thousands of miles. I'm buff, pumpkin, and it's not for form. It's for function. One can't pack fat where I go.

Oh, there's plenty of disincentive for sloth where I wander: it's move or die.

Gender is very interesting out yonder. Muscle doesn't matter as much as one might assume. Even skill is secondary to endurance. Can you bear being wet and cold, day after day? Sure, reading a map matters, as does reading rapids, but it's one's ability to ignore those nerve endings that matters most.

I imagined MMM in the rapids.

"Biggy," he said, "my paddle broke, but don't worry! I'll use my dick!"

"Oh, M-cubed," I'd reply, after witnessing his male member, "you're so much more than mortal, but you're all man!"

Okay, okay, I'm an idiot, but I do make myself laugh!