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Friday, June 20, 2008 08:29 AM

Third Partys are great and fine in theory

But nothing is going to happen in that way and nothing substantial is going to change unless and until you make the vast, unwashed masses understand very clearly how this affects them, their families, their ability to make a living, etc., on a substantial, personal, daily basis.

Most people are so entangled in the minutia of their day-to-day lives that a clear, personal, jolt to their way of life is about all that will work.

I'm not completely convinced that targeting specific congressmen and women is going to have a great effect, because it will be seen largely as just another political ad by yet another special interest group.

But perhaps showing them actual examples of gov't abuses of average people like them, via TV ad, radio, a play, school functions, parades, what the hell ever, is probably going to be more effective at rallying widespread support that might eventually lead to a third party than simply starting out by supporting candidates who are so underfunded they don't have a prayer.

It's something that has to get into the daily life of someone, and make it easy for them to see how bad the effect really is.

$4/gallon gas seems to be having that kind of effect, although putrid coverage by the MSM on the causes of it isn't leading people in the right direction as far as learning why it has come to that.

Which brings us back to GG's battle with the corrupt MSM and their destructive influence on this country.

See, he really is on the right track about a lot of these things....;-)

Friday, June 20, 2008 08:35 AM

Wishes

I was merely noting what I wished for in terms of shaking up the current two party system.

As they say, wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up first.

Friday, June 20, 2008 12:35 PM

We need a few chuckles, even if they're jaded ones

Latest Mark Fiore cartoon is all too apropos:

http://www.markfiore.com/

BTW, Glenn, love the new ad!

Sunday, June 22, 2008 06:59 AM

Uh Oh, you said the secret phrase, Memoryalpha

Things will not get better until we get a better class of politician and the Democratic party is not currently providing it.

I think I hear adnoto's giant clomping feet and huge "beatin' stick" coming forth to lay the beatdown on you for your totally stupid, worthless, indescribably unserious comments....Oh No! Run, run, run for your life!

Sunday, June 22, 2008 12:30 PM

Clomp Clomp, beat beat no more....

I am outta here. This place is an insane asylum and most of you are fucking nuts.

Don't let your browser hit you in the ass on your way out....

Friday, June 27, 2008 07:46 AM

I don't think Olbermann is completely honest with himself

I watch Countdown EVERY night, 5 days a week. There's no arguing he's been the lone voice in the televised MSM of common sense and justified outrage at the (almost too) numerous crimes and misdemeanors of the Cheney adm....err, Bush Administration.

However, two observations I have been keenly aware of about Keith and his show:

1) He has been CLEARLY pro-Obama and anti-Hillary for the entire time they were viewed as the two Democratic frontrunners. Watching him every night, it is just so clear to see. He did NOT come down on Obama the way I expected him to, or the way he should have, based on his own remarks of the past and his constant bashing of the Bush Adm's wrongdoings and the weak-kneed Democrats. What Obama did was every bit as weak, capitulating, and principle-free as those Olbermann routinely critisizes.

2) His "guests" on the show are restricted to a very narrow, short list of folks who will almost always agree with what Keith thinks. Seriously, when was the last time Keith had someone on his show where they fundamentally disagreed about anything material and actually discussed it? I know why Keith does this--to keep the theme of his show consistently Pro-Dem, Anti-Bush, and Anti-Fox.

If you want to be more than another obviously biased pundit, Keith, then get some new guests on your show with varying viewpoints. And if you disagree with them, fine! Take them to task and show your viewers why their viewpoints are weak. Those of us intelligent enough to see weak-ass, extemporaneous tap-dancing when we see it are getting mighty tired of watching the same garbage come out of Dana Milbank, Jon Alter, and Richard Wolfe every night.

Friday, June 27, 2008 09:27 AM

Did anyone catch this?

As I was getting ready to email Obama's site to once again ask him to block this FISA bill, I noted this at the very top of his contact page:

I'm asking you to believe. Not just in my ability to bring real change to Washington...I'm asking you to believe in yours.

It's quotes like these, repeated ad nauseum, that, when compared against Obama's stance on the FISA bill as a Constitutional Law Professor, make me want to just check right out of this entire advocacy process. Makes me feel like no matter what the issue or the rightness of it, or how loud or often we protest, it just doesn't matter.

I'll keep pushing on, and trying to care, but man, that quote was like a punch in the stomach out of nowhere.

Monday, July 7, 2008 10:23 AM

@achilleselbow:

What it suggests to me is an electorate where the majority are not sure of their own opinions, hold self-contradictory views, and can be easily swayed simply by the wording of an issue.

And thus, the reason Karl Rove and the other "attack ad-ists" exist and flourish.

On the other hand, when you are fed disinformation long enough, you believe it so strongly that even when presented with stark, incontrovertible evidence to the contrary, it is easily dismissed because most ill-informed citizens don't want to admit that they've been holding an (choose your word) incorrect, unsustainable, illogical, stupid, criminal......point of view.

So which is better? The malleable fence-sitter, or the Rush-like dittohead?

Ehh, which is worse is more like it.

Sunday, July 13, 2008 01:25 PM
Original article: Torture and the rule of law

@shooter

And for the relatively innocuous Snow.

Excuse my blasphemy, but....

God are you stupid.

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