...that she became a cheerleader for wiretapping AFTER she was wiretapped and blackmailed. She'll hopefully never get re-elected, but she also probably won't ever face charges since the evidence against her was... obtained illegally!

My god, maybe a totalitarian regime would be better. At least it would be clear who's fucking us and how're we're getting fucked. This is insane.

Start an illegal war based on lies. Torture people to get evidence you weren't lying.

I begin to see the reasons some people don't want to look back. Its really fucking ugly.

Ask the person who proposes the 'ticking time bomb' defense: "How exactly do you know that a given person you have in custody has the information you need to stop a ticking time bomb?"

See? You can't. The fallacy of that argument is that there is never a mistake, never an innocent being tortured. Its always someone who "should" be tortured. But the real world doesn't work that way. In reality, we'd be torturing someone we merely suspected of having important info. And if you accept its ok to torture suspected holders of potentially critical information then anyone could be snatched off the street and tortured and it'd be ok.

Also, bottom line, torture is illegal so its efficacy is completely irrelevant anyway.

1. Bush would become a feriner. We could snatch him and torture him at gitmo, no big whoop.

2. Given the current and trending ethnic breakdown of texas, in five years it'd be taken over by mexico, THEN we could build a border wall to keep all the non mexican texans from trying to sneak back into america.

I sorta understand, I skipped ALL of Bush's speeches. Couldn't STAND to hear that asshat talk, so I'm not surprised Fox was the first to say 'enough'.

However the argument that 'its ok because Obama has been making a lot of speeches' totally discounts the fact that the country is in such terrible shape and is on the brink of getting much worse or better, in part dependent on Obama's performance as president.

At such a critical time for the country, Fox is clearly doing a disservice to its viewers by not presenting this.

Personally I'll be watching the episodes of "Sit Down, Shut Up", "Family Guy" and "American Dad" that I missed last night. If a politician ever says something of note, I'll catch the tape later.

Waterboarding IS illegal, regardless how people feel about it and whether its effective or justified or not.

Exactly how high up the ladder of political positions must I rise before I am allowed to break the law with impunity?

I'm surprised at you Mr. Keillor. Granted my impression of you is based on your entertainment work, so I've no one to blame but myself for being mislead, nonetheless, I would have assumed that the concept of fairness to be a strong pillar of your ideology. And in our country, based as it is on the rule of law, I can think of few things more unfair than allowing those of a certain social stature to be exempt from the consequences of their own misdeeds.

I can't help but feel that had Bush and his cronies been small town characters in one of your stories, they'd have gotten what was coming to them for their misadventures.

calgodot's ridiculous and indefensible rationale that allows him to equate an employee being fired for hurting the business interests of his employer with an assault on freedom of speech, and in particular an assault on freedom of speech that is somehow Obama's fault obviously shows him to be merely a troll, posting to get people riled up.

You keep thinking that and you keep watching your party sink into not just irrelevance but into ignominy.

See the problem is there is a huge dichotomy in conservative ideology that says 'small govt' and also says 'regulate the private lives of my neighbors whose behavior that doesn't affect me in anyway, I nonetheless disapprove of'.

Maybe if the RNC acted like they wanted to represent ALL Americans instead of just the ones they approve of they may have a chance to save themselves. Though I wouldn't hold my breath. The RNC's knee-jerk response to attack the religious faith, sexual orientation and patriotism of anyone who disagrees with them seems uncontrollable, even when its hurting them.

Yeah, the electorate has matured somewhat, but even still, just because a given voter doesn't like gays, for example, that doesn't necessarily mean that that voter wants their politics to revolve around, cater to or pander to that dislike. Thats the mistake the RNC is making, they're focusing on and aligning themselves with what people hate, and that won't work for people who don't hate and it won't even work for ALL the people who do hate. Its a losing strategy, but they can't seem to walk away from it.

The reason the RNC is having a hard time walking away from their strategy of negativity, is because anytime a republican dares to suggest that maybe gays aren't so bad, or perhaps we should pay closer attention to the constitution and NOT run the country according to the bible, they get immediately crucified by the party.

This one: "I am not prepared to have my 29-year record in the United States Senate decided by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate -- not prepared to have that record decided by that jury, the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate."

I mean, its unbelievable for its raw honesty, so rare in politics, which should win it an awards just on that score, but factor in the unmitigated gall of also completely dismissing the whole concept of how representative democracy works.

...that Operation: RNC Re-Branding is well under way and going FABULOUSLY! hahahahaha!

A dem beats specter in the primary then goes on to win the seat.