Oh yeah, I'm not expecting the Klan to come down with a case of Obamania (though they often have come down, quite regrettably with cases of jungle fever) But still its not totally unreasonable to picture some quiet small town conservatives who've never voted dem before secretly pulling the lever for Obama JUST because they really do feel bush & co. have screwed up the country, but also the right-wing vitriol against him may backfire against genuine conservatives who're probably nice people.

I don't doubt there will be some serious racial ugliness but I think it wont be as bad as all that coming from RNC or it's outlets. I think many low-level racists in America do NOT want it pointed out to them that they are racists. I think if the race-bating from the right goes past a certain point, it could help Obama. The right can't afford to offend the moderates too much on this issue.

Chances are the dems are going to increase their majorities in the house and the senate (buh-bye Lieberman!) so hopefully the idiots who support what bush has done to the country and have called anyone who disagrees a traitor or terrorist can be ignored when they suddenly begin crying for bipartisanship.

Ya I know but since HRC is using Bill's presidency as a major part of her 'experience' she's vulnerable to a LOT of questions about it. And any question she didn't answer because she didn't have anything to do with some specific thing, then would bring more questions about what exactly her experience was in the Bill presidency so she could be questioned on those things.

Right or wrong I think it would potentially be devastating in the general election for her.

The problem there is that Russert IS an ass, lol. But in the general, when people are paying attention if HRC does the, "Bill's Presidency is my experience", "I didn't have anything to do with that aspect of Bill's presidency" shuffle, she's going to look really bad. imo.

"I like President Bush's insistence on tax cuts that have produced good results for the economy, I like the aggressive war on terrorism."

You are aware the economy is in the crapper and every major financial outlet is saying we're in a depression or we're going to be one soon?

You are aware that compared to how the war against terrorism was packaged and sold to us, it has been an utter disaster?

Iraq had no ties to terrorism at all, now we're trying to get terrorists out of Iraq.

Pakistan is our BFF ally and we've given them many billions of dollars in support, yet for some reason Pakistan is al-queda's homebase? WTF? And whenever the Pakistani govt does decide to go after some al-queda, they just cross the border into our other 'victory' Afghanistan. Which brings us to...

The Taliban is still very active in Afghanistan. I can't believe I even have to see the word 'taliban' in the paper. I thought they were defeated? Hello?

These are the things you think Bush is good on? *shudder*

If you'd answered supreme court nominations, I might have understood, but the economy and the war?!?

Ya, I guess you're right. All it would do is maybe blow some holes in her 'experience' argument and that would be kinda moot against McCain anyway right?

I mean McCain can say he WAS ready to lead ON day 1 of the dawn of time.

Regarding Lieberman I was referring to if the dems pick up a few more seats in the Senate, Lieberman can kiss all his chairmanships goodbye, and he'll be the jr. member on some pointless committee. Basically I meant buh-bye from the dem party.

Let's be clear, the republicans in congress and the whitehouse and their footsoldiers in the media have been quite free and easy labeling people who don't agree with their plans as traitors, terrorist sympathizers, surrenderers, betrayers etc... (did you see Mitt's speech when he bowed out?) It goes on and on. So NOW that it looks like the repubs are going to lose the whitehouse along with the congress, you want to bring up bipartisanship? No way. Others may pussyfoot around it but I'll come out and say: Fuck the vocal religious minority who want to force everyone to follow their religion by making their religious beliefs into laws.

The Bush administration has been a colossal fuck up for America and the world and bipartisanship isn't going to fix it.

And since I know you love America so much I'll let you take back that comment about the ACLU calling terrorists, defendants. I just KNOW you love America so much that the central tenet of America's legal system of 'innocent until proven guilty' is one of the ideals you hold proudly in your chest as it puffs out with American pride. Don't you?

"But it is something that, with no basis in fact, some Obama supporters keep bringing up in support of their guy."

Ok I'll break the code for you.

'Bipartisan' in regards to Obama means the same thing as 'change' does in his campaign: Not Hillary.

They are health insurance plans. Please be clear. Nobody is concerned about your health. They are only concerned with the best way to get your money into the hands of insurance companies.

Women are mythical

"How does a man broach this subject with a relatively new woman without sounding like a pig?

Bring it up during anal sex.