Letters to the Editor
Baldie McEagle
Published Letters: 992 Editor's Choice: 3
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Sorry, Mike
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]but you're going to have to be clearer than that. When did I engage with a troll in such a manner that his trivial comments were encouraged to bloom into a pseudo-debate? Seriously.
I'm not trying to piss on you---I admire your calm attempts to reason with them. But please do consider tactics and strategy---what they are trying to do to us and what the rest of us here are trying to do. Did Knob's joke about nuclear winter really deserve a response?
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Getting somewhere?
[Read the article: McCain embraces Bush's radical views of executive power]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I did not say that it was only force; it is also incompetence, evil, ignorance and several other things.
Seriously, you are too funny. What you're doing here is espousing a religion. But I respect the consistency of your principles.
However, it was not me that created the monster. It happened long before I was born. The great depression was caused by the central bank along with the monetary policies of the central government. Why should I yell hallelujah that the government did help a few get even more wealthy?
Historically, government has not been made to look good. It has "issues" and I think we agree what those are, generally.
But shall we then define it by its worst behaviors? Shall we say, "Government, children, is when the horsemen come and rape you and kill your parents and burn your hut"? Because I heard that happened a few times.
The government has been killing innocent people all my lifetime and it was on every continent on the planet. Do you really thing that government will stop the murders simply because Obama is president?
But I never said that. Never. I don't believe it. I don't expect it. Rather, I have stated that I intend to watch him closely if he is elected. He is not the Messiah.
The is no such thing as "public" voluntary cooperation, if by that you mean government. It is the same thing as our school saying that you must do voluntary service.
Again, this is your "belief," and I can see that it is quite a bugaboo for you. It would sicken me too, but I wouldn't stand for it and I don't fear it.
I would go with Machiavelli (quoted in the new thread), who implied that princely power might be decreased if people actually work together toward what they commonly want. Here, if voters voted for what they want---not WHO they want, not HOW they are told---we might get somewhere. People might start thinking that they are getting something in exchange for the taxes they pay if they actually see themselves getting something back for the taxes they pay. OMG! Voluntary! Collectivism! Government as something positive, not entirely negative!
After all, even Grover Norquist pays for food and shelter. Is it a tax? Is it voluntary? Is it mandatory? Is it something else?
Mandatory voluntary service? That is what you are saying you favor.
No. Again, look up the concept of the consent of the governed.
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OTOH
[Read the article: McCain embraces Bush's radical views of executive power]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]Mandatory voluntary service? That is what you are saying you favor.
Then again, maybe not too far off, since consent is itself an apparent contradiction, or a resolution of the same one we are discussing. But I'd say you have the wrong end of the stick.
If we all agree not to pee in the sink, then is it mandatory or voluntary when we run to the bathroom (so inconvenient!)?
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Unmanly behavior
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]The Bald One:
Paraphrased from a philospy text: "A man stands on a bridge. He sees another man drowning in a cold, icy river below. Does he bear any responsibility by failing to act?"
To answer your question, of course we can do nothing...would you let the man drown?
If this is not analogous, you can certainly make that point, and give your explanation as to why.
Throwing around the "neo-con" label and hurling insults, doesn't accomplish much.
(a) I didn't call you a neocon. I called you a troll.
(b) The responsibility to make the analogy is yours, not mine. When you do, maybe I'll answer whatever the question was.
Here's a counter-conundrum:
If a man is lying in bed asleep when another man breaks into his neighbor's house, surprises them, kills them, then starts to choke, is it the now wakened man's responsibility to save the burglar/murderer of his neighbor? Especially when he recognizes the man as the murderer of his own father?
According to your rules, YOU figure out how that applies or doesn't apply to Iran, then report in this space.
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One more for the knob
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I know that after Israel became an independent state all if its neighbors have attacked it.
And I know the history of the wars of Middle-Earth.
Did Israel never attack them?
Oh, in pre-emptive self-defense, I see. Isn't it always the way.
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Therefore
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]"is it the now wakened man's responsibility to save the burglar/murderer of his neighbor? Especially when he recognizes the man as the murderer of his own father?"
Answer: No. He ain't worth saving.
You ask easy questions.
Yes, it was an easy one.
So, why would Iran not pull the shotgun from under his bed and blow Uncle Sam away?
Maybe he's responsible after all.
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Silly knob
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I think you only listed 1 war. Where are the others?
I recommend wikipedia as a source.
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Must have missed that
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]I've never seen Glenn be ambiguous about much of anything.
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It's that ol' black-and-white thinking
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]MAD implies trust. You trust your foe to not act in a manner that would harm himself.
Here we go again with that "Iran is insane" story. There's just no middle ground with these killers, is there?
I wonder how Knob stands on nutjobs with SKS rifles.
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Unless it's not
[Read the article: Neocons and the truth: Bitter enemies to the end]
[Read more letters about this article: Here]To portray the 1967 war as Israeli aggression is, to put it mildly, misleading.
Evidence has been put forth in many places that casts doubt on this---that suggests Israel created the whole incident to justify a war it wanted. Maybe so, maybe not.
But where can we find out about such things? Where?