Nothing left to say,

thanks Glenn!

I agree. I rarely post but I do read daily and I've read Joan's 'drive-by's' and have gotten so disgruntled with her opinion being passed off as neutral (by herself) that I stopped reading them.

Although I did check to see if there was another drive-by this weekend, I noticed she posts her most inflammatory ones usually late Friday, and surprise, surprise it was a doozy.

But further proof of Salon's slippage in personal relevance is the sad return of Alex Koppleman despite the obvious more thorough and far superior observations by Steve Benen.

Koppelman and Walsh's sweeping under the carpet of Ferraro's comments and then shrill responses to the ensuing uproar made me very sick.

Sorry Glen, I know it's off topic. Glen's analysis is the one thing I make sure not to miss but as for the rest of Salon, I don't pay attention and will no longer support because the quality just isn't there.

I just wanted to say that you've succinctly (Ancient) hit the nail on the head for me and am right there with you.

Now only Greenwald is worth paying attention to. I would say sorry Alex but it would be untrue, Steve set the bar that Alex has failed to even see.

With Joan's rants, I'll check out Greenwald and that is it. Very diplomatic Steve and will and have been checking out Carpetbagger since you've taken Alex's mantle.

maybe not all but more than a fair share for this.

Some of us have to work or scrape by and can't pay attention to the details (and there are so many lies and details) as much as we would like but your efforts at hi-lighting such abuses (and others) allows us to focus what time we do have to fight back.

You've taken up where the fourth estate has dropped the ball (or is outright complicit)

Funny how the proper 'wording' or lacking 'disclaimer' is attacked but then the wrong person is blamed, Alex is gone and it was posted by Steven Benen, great reading comprehension there. What did you miss in "some..., wasn't scientific, etc." Pretty disclaimer obvious but more to the point is ABC running the story and what that portends if any thing is of interest.

Frankly Steve, already in two days you've brought war room back to some life that was lacking in Koppelman. Now it seems there is something on Salon besides Greenwald to pay attention to. Now if we can only get Joan to go on vacation too.

I love that we no longer have the anonymous option. Now we can see that all letters by 'theplanner' and 'sonofloud' are always rants about Obama.

If they spent equal time, or any time critiquing their candidate whoever that might be I might be inclined to read them but since they are incapable of anything but a one note shrill screed they negate themselves of meaning or content.

Sorry it's OT but these new clowns make me sick. Carry on.

thanks for the bbc link

pretty depressing

Glenn,

you can see the length of the video before you even play it at bottom right of window, it says 16:35.

Not to go OT on this but if it weren't for Glenn and some of the folks here adding links to other articles, opinion, etc (and also the missed Tim Grieve, war room 'ain't the same without him) and the foreign news I read or hear- BBC, der Spiegel, Stern and 'other' sources I would go mad.

As for the MSM, I was abroad for a month last summer and the first thing I did upon return to the states was cancel my tv service. The noise pollutes your mind, doesn't give you space to think, let alone accurate information. As for C. Rose's format, it harkens back to the old days of tv and I'd rather watch Tom Snyder than the fake folksy bullshit of Rose any day.

But back on topic- I remember hearing other voices regarding our invasion, or regarding Israel and Hamas, etc and almost all of it came from BBC radio broadcasts. I think they can be tainted but I've heard Robin Lustig grill people in interviews that I can only dream of happening here.

The sources are out there but not here.

good luck asking Jennings what he thinks now because he's been dead since August 2005 from lung cancer.

"with all due apologies for my Western bias -- this is horseshit."

No, your interpretation of Buddhism following a Western idea of morality and ethics is bullshit. It's paper thin, it's taking the finger pointing at the moon for being the moon, etc, etc.

Sophomoric, immature and out of your league.

Not that I care to defend the Dali Lama, I could care less. It's the arrogance of the western ideal of judeo-christian ethics being taken as some supreme 'truth'.

Oh, Salon isn't worth this, it's just more noise, I'm noise, this article is noise, this world is noise.

The MSM has being doing this for 7+ years to the criminals in the White House why should they break form now and actually report the truth?

Why the house of cards might come down.

...is war room news? How?

We're on the verge of a complete financial meltdown and neither Democratic candidates have made a peep? If they did, War Room didn't report it.

No War Room reports that other blogs are on fire with outrage.

Jesus.

Who cares?